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Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz · 386 episodes with transcripts

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

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A World Model of Life: Biohub's Alex Rives on Virtual Cells, Measurement, & the $1.8B Data Push

October 20, 2026

Nathan Labenz (0:00)

Hello, and welcome back to The Cognitive Revolution. Today, my guest is Alex Rives, formerly co-founder and chief scientist at Evolutionary Scale, makers of the ESM series of models, and currently head of science at Biohub. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative backed Moonshot with the inspiring mission to cure or prevent…

From there, we get Alex's perspective on why today's virtual cell models have not revolutionized medicine. The heart of the issue, Alex says, is that our ability to observe what matters in biology is still very limited by the measurement technology we have available. As a result, we simply don't have the quality of…

Alex Rives (4:03)

Thank you. Great to be here, Nathan.

Nathan Labenz (4:05)

Yeah, I'm excited for this conversation.

Let's start with the big picture. Biohub has this grandiose mission, which I'm excited about, of curing all diseases. What does it mean to you? Should I think of that as synonymous with another phrase people sometimes use as solving biology? Should I think of it as applying to aging? Are we living forever in your…

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