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"The Cognitive Revolution" Podcast Transcripts

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz · 383 episodes with transcripts

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

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AI:AM: A Level We Shouldn't Pass? Notes from The Curve + Tokens vs. Salaries & Is SaaS Cooked?

October 8, 2026

Nathan Labenz (0:00)

This week, my notes from The Curve, the conference where Frontier Lab Insiders and their critics share a room. Plus, the memory wall, and what agents are doing to software. This is AI in the AM.

There likely is, let's say, a level of intelligence that we just shouldn't go past.

Thomas Sohmers (0:21)

What?

Nathan Labenz (0:22)

Yeah, first time I'd ever heard that from a Frontier Lab leader, then I just asked to follow up, like, okay, well, how do we operationalize that? Would you be prepared to sign on to something like a limit on the number of flops to go into the next pre-training run? But what actually happened was he basically said…

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