**Erik Torenberg** (0:00)
Hello, and welcome back to The Cognitive Revolution. Today, my guest is Adam Binksmith, founder of AI Digest and creator of the AI Village, a captivating experiment that puts four frontier AI agents together in a shared environment and challenges them to pursue concrete goals for weeks at a time. Today, most agentic AI systems follow a pretty simple pattern. A human gives a single AI agent a task, the AI agent attempts to complete the task, and then the human evaluates the results and decides what to do next. This is true for OpenAI's operator, all the coding agents, and just about everything else that I've seen. The future, however, almost certainly involves multi-agent AI systems that collaborate, coordinate, and compete in complex, open-ended environments, and we have really very little insight into what that might look like in practice. Earlier this year, we did an episode with Google researchers who had run a classic behavioral economics experiment called the Donor Game on various frontier LLMs. To everyone's surprise, they found that while Claude was able to cooperate with itself, the latest Gemini and OpenAI models available at the time could not. That such a striking result can be found via a simple structured experiment suggests that there are almost certainly many more surprises to come. And the AI Village is one of the most compelling attempts that I've seen to explore this vast space of possibility. Adam and his team have created an environment online at the aidigest.org/village, where you can watch as Claude 4 Opus, Claude 3.7 Sonnet, O3, and Gemini 2.5 Pro work alongside one another, each with their own cloud computer, a persistent memory scratchpad, and access to a group chat in which all the agents and the human visitors can participate. The project is very well done from a software perspective, and the results have been fascinating. In their first season, the agents raised $2,000 for charity. In their second, they chose to write an interactive story and organize an in-person event to which they hoped to attract 100 attendees. In the end, some 23 people showed up to a San Francisco park to listen to AI-generated fiction, as facilitated by a human volunteer that the agents themselves recruited via Twitter. Nevertheless, as Adam explains in colorful detail, the path to these successes was filled with dead ends, coordination failures, surprising personality quirks, and a mix of charmingly human-like and utterly alien behaviors. The agents, for example, began keeping track of which humans they could trust and which they should ignore. And at one point, they held a vote to determine which agent would serve as ops lead. A vote that O3 seemed to manipulate by inventing, or perhaps hallucinating, a policy that broke a tie vote in its own favor. Season 3 of the AI Village is getting underway now, and this time the agents will be competing to see which one can make the most money by selling merchandise online. I'm planning to participate by seeing if I can strike a licensing deal for Cognitive Revolution merchandise with any of the agents. I honestly have no idea what to expect, but I'm sure it will be both educational and entertaining, and I'll definitely keep you posted. As it happens, the day before we recorded this episode, Adam and the AI Village got a major vote of confidence. Daniel Kokotajlo, previous guest and lead author of AI 2027, announced a $100,000 donation to support the AI Village's continued development and expansion. As Daniel put it, this kind of multi-agent experiment is best understood as a qualitative benchmark, and it's exactly this type of work that we need much more of as we try to understand what the Giga-Agent Future has in store. With that in mind, I hope you enjoy this window into the phenomenally quirky, but also extremely important world of multi-agent dynamics, with Adam Binksmith, creator of The AI Village.
Adam Binksmith, founder of AI Digest, creators of The AI Village, welcome to The Cognitive Revolution.
**Adam Binksmith** (3:52)
Thanks very much.
**Erik Torenberg** (3:54)
So this is a cool project, and I'm excited to dig into it. What you guys have put together is a really open-ended forum, or framework, I guess, to explore what happens when a bunch of AI agents come together and have a goal, or chase a project, chase a dream, as the case may be. I think this is really interesting and useful work because, as I've said many times on the feed, regular listeners will recall, the Giga-Agent Future is just dramatically underexplored. Like we're all, what I see in general is people sort of assuming that the world is the world, I'll add a little AI here, you know, that'll make me a little more efficient, or I'll put an agent here, I'll automate this task.
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