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When royal scandal, celebrity self-mythology, and cultural outrage all collide, you get an explosive conversation. Today we're breaking down Megyn Kelly's interview with Maureen Callahan about everything from the British monarchy to Oprah's latest moment of self-worship. And there's a lot to unpack here. Let's start with the royal family, which Megyn describes as being in full meltdown. The center of attention is Earl Spencer's new book, Swan Song: Diana, My Sister, and one alleged remark from Prince Charles after Diana's death. Right, that shocking line: "Rest assured, we'll forget her soon enough."
Megyn says it feels less like a family comment and more like a cold judgment on the nation itself. Pretty devastating if true. What's interesting is how the conversation shifts to Diana herself. Megyn argues that Diana was both mistreated and deeply complicated. She makes the point that Harry fails to understand his mother also knew how to work the press. Exactly. In Megyn's view, Diana fed the tabloids, managed reporters, and played the attention game as skillfully as anyone around her. That makes Harry's constant lectures about paparazzi and victimhood ring hollow.
They also get into the psychology of it all. Megyn says Diana appeared to show signs of severe emotional instability, while Charles had a low emotional quotient and little warmth in the marriage. She doesn't excuse him, but argues the relationship was arranged, miserable, and marked by a loss that became even larger in death. Then there's Charles Spencer himself. Megyn calls him self-serving and suspicious, especially given claims that he wanted to lead Diana's funeral procession alone, and that he's now aligning himself with Harry and Meghan. She frames the Spencer book as part grief, part grandstanding, and part proxy war over who gets to control Diana's legacy. Speaking of Harry and Meghan, they come in for more criticism too.
Megyn argues they keep using optics, children, and grievances as leverage. She says their behavior suggests a strategy, not just fear, and she's skeptical their public security concerns are entirely sincere. In her view, the couple know how to manufacture sympathy. Now let's shift to the second major topic: Oprah, after her appearance on Mel Robbins's show, this is where things get really entertaining.
Megyn and Maureen mock the interview as pure self-worship. Oprah's line, "I am most proud of the woman that I have become," is treated as a perfect example of empty grandeur. And her advice that people are born to fulfill "the dream of your life here on Earth"? Megyn says that kind of talk ignores real struggle and real responsibility.
Finally, the conversation lands on Lena Dunham. Megyn reacts to Dunham's surrogacy and past remarks with outright disgust, arguing that public culture keeps rewarding someone she sees as deeply disturbed. Dunham's comments about abortion, including that she liked the idea of a character who was not "tortured by it," become another example of elite messaging disconnected from ordinary human pain.
The episode closes as a harsh, unapologetic indictment of celebrity hypocrisy, moral posturing, and the stories famous people tell about themselves. No punches pulled whatsoever.
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