Normally Podcast: Democrat Civil War ERUPTS in Michigan as Florida Republicans Face Election Day Panic
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
November 3, 2026
Election Day 2026 is here, and Democrats are facing a political firestorm in Michigan!
Speakers Mary Katharine Ham, Karol Markowicz, Haley Stevens, Abdul El-Sayed
TopicsDaily NewsNewsNews Commentary
Mary Katharine Ham (0:05)
Hey guys, we are back on normally the show with Normalish Takes for When the News Gets Weird. I'm Mary Katharine Ham.
Karol Markowicz (0:11)
I'm Karol Markowicz. How was your Halloween, Mary Katharine?
Mary Katharine Ham (0:14)
Oh, it was great. As you noted, you hadn't seen any updates from my family costumes because I phoned it in this Halloween and I kind of enjoyed that. One of my kids was dressed as a broken porcelain doll, like a creepy doll, and I did do her makeup.
Karol Markowicz (0:33)
That was really cool.
Mary Katharine Ham (0:34)
It turned out really nice. The other kids were just like a cheetah and a contractor and little red riding hood, and I was like, we're good to go.
In a very un-me fashion, I plopped a set of cheetah ears on a headband on my head and was like, I'm good.
Karol Markowicz (0:51)
That's really not you. That's me.
Mary Katharine Ham (0:55)
I enjoyed it though. I got to soak it all in instead of stressing about it cost me. I like that.
Karol Markowicz (1:00)
Yeah. I was Cleopatra. It was a very last-minute costume to go along with the Caesar costume that I bought my husband at Spirit Halloween the day before Halloween. Love it.
Our youngest son, also very last-minute, because he had been thing one, thing two with his friend at school. But if you wear a thick polyester costume on Halloween outside in Florida, you will actually die. So he looks every year for something shirtless or just very light. He was the injured Philadelphia Eagles and he borrowed the jersey from our very close friends who live next door, who are Philadelphia Eagles fans. I didn't get to see whether they enjoyed that or not.
Mary Katharine Ham (1:44)
I was going to say, did they consent to this use of the jersey?
Karol Markowicz (1:47)
They did not. He was just like, can I borrow a jersey? And his very nice friend said, sure.
Mary Katharine Ham (1:54)
Yeah.
Karol Markowicz (1:56)
And then my daughter was the Duolingo bird, which I thought was clever. And then my kooky son, my middle son, who always has the costume that needs a paragraph explanation, was a Teutonic knight.
Mary Katharine Ham (2:11)
Oh, sure.
Karol Markowicz (2:12)
He made it.
Mary Katharine Ham (2:15)
I love it.
I am trying to make my kids be a little more in charge of their costumes, just guiding them, because I want to pass this skill down. My mother made me a costume person. She was an elementary school librarian, and she dressed up as book characters all the time. So we had a costume closet as children. I mean, stuff was everywhere. So I inherited it from her, and I want to pass it along to my children. But that means that I don't do all the work.
You got to learn the skill. We got to throw it together for our great costumes. So we've been doing that. And I do want to shout out for future reference that Ms. Ham's suggestion for Karol and her husband should be pocketed for future years.
Karol Markowicz (2:58)
Yeah, I have put it away. She said Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, which I love.
I just didn't have the bandwidth to make it happen this year.
Mary Katharine Ham (3:07)
Oh, I get it.
Karol Markowicz (3:08)
This year was a Spirit Halloween day before kind of situation.
Mary Katharine Ham (3:12)
You guys would look so great that I feel like it must be done at some point.
Karol Markowicz (3:15)
We'll do it at some point. Thank you, Mrs. Ham. All right. I guess we have to talk about the election.
Mary Katharine Ham (3:22)
You know, it's coming up. It's coming up.
Karol Markowicz (3:24)
It is coming up. We are recording this on Monday. It airs on Tuesday. It is election day. Please go vote. That is actually the whole ball game is the voting part, not the talking about it part.
Mary Katharine Ham (3:35)
Yep. Yep.
We make it seem like the ball game is the talking, but in fact, it is the voting.
Karol Markowicz (3:42)
This weekend was a political earthquake in Michigan as Haley Stevens endorsed Mike Rogers. She ran for the Democratic nomination, lost to Abdul El-Sayed. Now, she's endorsed Republican Mike Rogers, and it's a huge, huge deal.
Mary Katharine Ham (3:58)
Yeah.
It came about in this very slow rolling catastrophe way, where he ran his entire primary campaign calling her a dumb broad with dual loyalties. Right. Now, a lot of people heal from things like that.
Karol Markowicz (4:16)
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