Nancy Guthrie Case: What The Ransom Notes Really Said

**Branson Quirke** (0:08)
Hey, welcome to The TMZ Podcast. I'm Branson Quirke.

**Charlie Neff** (0:11)
I'm Charlie Neff.

**Branson Quirke** (0:11)
She should have Charlie intro. She's been here longer than me. Like, what am I thinking?

**Charlie Neff** (0:15)
Oh, it's fine.

**Branson Quirke** (0:16)
Like, it's a seniority thing, you know? Like, it's kind of disrespectful. Oh.
In a way.

**Charlie Neff** (0:23)
I accept Venmo and PayPal.

**Branson Quirke** (0:24)
Whoa, well, I'm out of here. You can do this on your own. How was your father's day weekend?

**Charlie Neff** (0:28)
Good, good. I just went out to a local lake with my stepdad, my brothers, my mom, like my family. I saw my grandfather after, had a great day, was beautiful.

**Branson Quirke** (0:40)
There's lakes in LA? Where?

**Charlie Neff** (0:42)
Yeah, I mean, there's tons of lakes in LA, but the one that I went to was called Puddingstone Lake. It's about an hour from here. It's right next to where my family lives. That was lovely. We went out on a boat. My family brought like their paddle boards. It was so nice. Did you go paddle boarding? I didn't. I just went on the boat.
But, I know, I know, I was just too busy flapping my trap, per usual. But the day before, I went to the Ariana Grande concert.

**Branson Quirke** (1:11)
I saw that. I saw that.

**Charlie Neff** (1:12)
It was so much fun. I took my brother to that. Had a great time. She is definitely an incredible singer. Like Mike was on.
Yep. She's incredible. Oh, J.Lo was there too. That was a cool sighting.

**Branson Quirke** (1:27)
Our co-host on Inside the Ring, CJ Perry. She was there as well.

**Charlie Neff** (1:32)
Oh, she went on Saturday?

**Branson Quirke** (1:33)
Oh, okay. I wish I knew that. She was very close.
She kind of has it made. Because being like, you know, former WB Superstar.

**Charlie Neff** (1:41)
Oh, I'm sure there's so many perks.

**Branson Quirke** (1:43)
She gets to like go to these things. And then she was at the World Cup on Sunday.

**Charlie Neff** (1:47)
Oh, so cool.

**Branson Quirke** (1:48)
So she gets to like be front row and everything. But glad you had a good weekend.

**Charlie Neff** (1:51)
What about you, Branson?

**Branson Quirke** (1:52)
It was fine. Yeah, I'm doing No Sugar. So day 27, No Sugar.

**Charlie Neff** (1:56)
How are you feeling?

**Branson Quirke** (1:57)
Great. I'm not eating.

**Charlie Neff** (1:59)
Do you literally feel a difference?

**Branson Quirke** (2:00)
Yes.

**Charlie Neff** (2:00)
Or are you just saying that just because it's like, oh, it's easy to say? No, I feel great.

**Branson Quirke** (2:04)
I don't crave it at all. Day 27, down 13 pounds. And I haven't had any fast food, not even like anything even remotely bad.

**Charlie Neff** (2:12)
What are you eating?

**Branson Quirke** (2:14)
Chicken, rice, broccoli.

**Harvey Levin** (2:16)
Yeah.

**Branson Quirke** (2:17)
Are they waiting for us to talk about what they clicked on the video for? Well, we have to talk, you know, we have to like, we come on here, this is a show.

**Charlie Neff** (2:24)
It's a little warm up, warm up.

**Branson Quirke** (2:25)
You want to listen to CNN? Go listen to CNN.

**Charlie Neff** (2:27)
Oh my gosh.

**Branson Quirke** (2:28)
You come here, you're going to hear about how our weekend went.

**Charlie Neff** (2:31)
Yes. But we are going to get into the topics now because it has been a busy ass day. Can I say ass? Oh my God. Look at me.

**Branson Quirke** (2:37)
Wow, that was the first time I've heard you say that.

**Charlie Neff** (2:38)
I know. I never say words like that. Nancy Guthrie. Wow.
Harvey is finally opening up publicly about some of the stuff that we've known here in the office. But Harvey is speaking out about the ransom notes we had obtained during the hunt for Nancy Guthrie to figure out where she ended up, where she is now, obviously, still has not been solved. Here's a little bit about what Harvey said.

**Harvey Levin** (3:07)
I want to talk about Nancy Guthrie and some communications I've had with the FBI that I haven't talked about until now. But I want to start with these reports that this ransom letter that we received kind of apologizes to Savannah Guthrie and her family for the kidnapping and that Nancy was no longer alive. That was not in the ransom note that we received.
It is not in that ransom note at all. It does say that she's scared, but okay. But the ransom note makes no reference to Nancy Guthrie either dying or the kidnappers apologizing. Now, there is a reference to Nancy Guthrie not being alive anymore, but that is from the person who sent us multiple emails saying that he knows or knew where Nancy Guthrie was and where the kidnappers were, and he wanted money in return for information.