Inside Gypsy Rose’s Ex-Fiancé’s Final Hours

Eric Wilson (0:07)

Hello, happy Friday, welcome to the TMZ Podcast Afternoon Edition. The best duo at TMZ is back here to bring you today's news, to close out the week. It's been a very long week for us here.

I feel like I've been saying that every week, but it's been a great, I mean, I've been here two years, right? I'm Eric Wilson, by the way. I'm Alexa Clown. Yeah, we both been here pretty much the same time. You started in November, I started in September, right?

Alexa Clown (0:37)

Yes, I started in November. Wow.

Eric Wilson (0:39)

I remember that. Two years. So two years for both of us.

I don't know that there's been a crazier two years in the history of TMZ. I mean, obviously the Kanye moment, Kobe, Michael Jackson, those kind of incidents, but consistently for the last two years, It's just news, news. The coronavirus, Luigi, Gene Hackman, Rob Reiner, Hayden, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, David. I mean, it's just been nonstop mess after mess.

Alexa Clown (1:07)

I know. It's just chaos. We're here to bring you more.

Eric Wilson (1:10)

And yeah, I mean, literally, the chaos does nonstop. I mean, some of these stories aren't even celebrity related, but they're such big national news stories. Everybody's talking about them, and so we got to as well. The first one was the story we broke last night, that Gypsy Rose Blanchard's ex-fiance, baby daddy, Ken Urker passed away at age 33 last night.

Alexa Clown (1:34)

So shocking.

Eric Wilson (1:34)

Police found him in his home. We have a lot of updates for that. So I guess we could just jump in. I think I did a live shot today, and I kind of think the best approach is kind of like going through the timeline, as far as what we know right now. So Wednesday night, he went to church with his family.

They said he was kind of spouting off stuff that he was depressed. They got the kind of idea that he was definitely seeming suicidal.

Alexa Clown (2:00)

He was drinking as well.

Eric Wilson (2:01)

He was drinking Wednesday night at church.

Alexa Clown (2:03)

Yes.

Eric Wilson (2:04)

Thursday, he did not go to work. Gypsy's brother went over.

Alexa Clown (2:10)

Yeah, David, right?

Eric Wilson (2:11)

Yes. Went through the window. Obviously, he called him, tried to get in, no answer, nothing. They did not hear from him all day. So he went through the window, found him in bed, dead, cold. So he's obviously been there for a while.

Syringes and needles are needles. And a brown drug substance was found in the vicinity of him, as well as a holstered gun.

And obviously, he was pronounced dead. So we've been hearing different things. Nothing official yet. Police are saying no foul play is suspected, but they're not rolling it out. Right.

Alexa Clown (2:53)

Which is interesting. I mean, I just, I feel bad because obviously, you see that headline. You see Gypsy Rose Blanchard's former fiancee dies, and people draw a lot of conclusions.

Eric Wilson (3:03)

It was Queen Elizabeth on Twitter all over again.

Everyone had a meme for it. And I mean, we have to talk about it, right?

Alexa Clown (3:11)

Yeah.

Eric Wilson (3:11)

We have to.

Alexa Clown (3:12)

You have to address the elephant in the room.

Eric Wilson (3:14)

Because here's the thing.

I think we know what it is, right? He probably committed suicide via overdose, right? That's kind of what we're leading to and thinking is probably what happened. Obviously, wait for toxicology, wait for police reporting, all that stuff. But just from what we know and what's been reported and the police reports that we've obtained, that's kind of what it looks like it's going. But you have to think, they were separated, they were obviously going through, I mean, we've seen some of her videos that were posted, but her flipping out on Ken, that video of her cutting that blanket is kind of crazy. So there are a lot of pieces in between where you're like, oh, well, with her mom, yada, yada. But it does seem like she did not do this.

Alexa Clown (3:59)

Yeah, unfair to blame her for this.

Eric Wilson (4:01)

It's definitely unfair, but we can see how people could easily get to that conclusion or at least, you know, in a way. I don't know. I don't know.

Alexa Clown (4:11)

Yeah, it's the obvious elephant in the room to at least, you know, people poke at it. I mean, she did lose the father of her daughter, which is pretty heart-wrenching. And she did speak with us. And it's interesting because in her initial statement, usually statements are like, he was loved, da-da-da, nothing. She said all that, but she also included that he was being cyberbullied, which I thought was a shock.