How To Easily Measure The Human Energy Field, "Chakras", Organ Function & More.

Ben Greenfield (0:01)

In this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Show.

Konstantin Korotkov (0:04)

We present the image of the energy field around the body. We present the image of chakras. We present the image of different mediums.

It's all based on very precise ideas, how it may be related with organs and systems, and then on sophisticated non-linear mathematics. We did a lot of study in the medical universities of people before and after surgery, and it was found that there are very specific parameters that tell us what is really significant for people if they have surgery.

SPEAKER_3 (0:36)

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Ben Greenfield (1:34)

Hey, folks, it's Ben Greenfield, and it was about four months ago at a biohacking summit in London that I watched on stage my friend and fellow biohacker and self-quantifying nerd, Ruben Salinas, who's actually been on this show before, give a fascinating presentation that revealed a host of these cutting edge methods that Ruben uses to keep his body and brain optimized. And he mentioned that each day he sticks his finger in a device called a bio-well, which measures parameters like his chakras and energy field and even the health of specific organs. And although I was skeptical, I was actually quite intrigued by some of the graphics that Ruben was displaying of the measurement of these fields and how one could actually quantify energy produced by the human body and even the energetic, I suppose, potential or frequencies expressed by different organs.

So I did some research into this device called the bio-well, and I discovered my guest today who joins us from St. Petersburg, Russia.

His name is Dr. Konstantin Korotkov, and he's professor of physics at the St. Petersburg Federal Research University of Informational Technologies in St. Petersburg. And he's well-known for his research on the human energy field. He developed something called gas discharge visualization, or GDV, as it's more popularly known among the self-quantifying nerd community. And he was involved with the development of this bio-well device. So during our discussion, we're going to jump into what GDV is, what this thing that you stick your finger into does, how you can measure the energy in not just your body, but also the environment surrounding you, and much more. So Dr. Korotkov, thank you for coming on the show.

Konstantin Korotkov (3:31)

Okay, thank you. Thank you. It's a pleasure for me.

Ben Greenfield (3:35)

So this gas discharge visualization, I'm just curious, tell me the story here. Was this something where you're just tinkering in your physics lab and you discover a way to visualize the human body by sticking one's finger in a device? Or walk me through how this development of gas discharge visualization was developed and how you play a role in this?

Konstantin Korotkov (3:58)

In principle, it's a long story. It started in 18th century when German physicist, George Liechtenberg found light coming from different subjects in electromagnetic field.

So it is a physical effect that was known for now more than 200 years. Then it was found in 19th century that this faint light coming from human body has some connection with psychological features, physiological features, state of health. And it was a lot of research done even by Tesla, known everywhere. Then in 20th century, it was many people who did it, but it became known to the world due to Russian scientists, family Kyrgyzstan. In mid-90s of last century, they redeveloped this effect. They've been studying this. Again, they found that this faint light coming from fingers and toes depends on psychological features, and they developed this way how to make a photograph.

Again, they wasn't the first, but it became known to the world as Kylian photographing.

Ben Greenfield (5:18)

And how do you pronounce that? Kylian photographing?

Konstantin Korotkov (5:21)

Kylian photographing.

Ben Greenfield (5:23)

Okay. How is that spelled?

Konstantin Korotkov (5:24)

K-E-U-L-I-N? K-I-R-L-I-N.

Ben Greenfield (5:28)

K-I-R-L-I-A-N. So, what they developed, and this was later on in the 1900s, was the ability to actually take photographs of the power produced by an object, such as a body.

Konstantin Korotkov (5:45)

So, it became very popular, and you can find hundreds of papers, articles, tens of books published on this topic in the 20th century.

And it became known in the United States, you to tell Momos and Kendall Johnson, who've been visiting Russia, or Soviet Union by that time, of course, and they published book Signs Behind the Iron Curtain, where they described a lot of different types of research. I should tell that in Soviet Union, it was a lot of money and attention spent by the government on psyche research.