Has Therapy Culture Worked

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**Jonathan Alpert** (2:31)
We have therapists that act as sounding boards. People go in and vent, and they feel better in the moment, and they just are spinning their wheels for endlessly, and they're not getting better.

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Over the past few decades, therapy speak has become commonplace in American pop culture, but is the pervasiveness of therapy actually making us happier and healthier?

**Georgia Howe** (2:50)
In today's episode, we speak to an author and psychotherapist about the issues in the therapy industry that are creating forever patients and failing to ever make them better. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley, and this is a weekend episode of Morning Wire.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:07)
The following is a previously recorded interview with the author of Therapy Nation, Jonathan Alpert.

**Georgia Howe** (3:13)
Joining us to discuss these disturbing trends and his new book, Therapy Nation, How America Got Hooked on Therapy and Why It's Left Us More Anxious and Divided, is psychotherapist and author Jonathan Alpert. Jonathan, thanks so much for coming on.

**Jonathan Alpert** (3:27)
Thanks for having me, George. I appreciate it.

**Georgia Howe** (3:29)
Tell us a little bit about your background and then how it led to this book.

**Jonathan Alpert** (3:34)
Sure. So Therapy Nation, to understand how the book came to be, we have to go back to 2012
And at the time I had been practicing for probably a dozen years as a psychotherapist. And I wrote a New York Times op-ed piece called In Therapy Forever Enough Already. And in the piece, I talked about how people were going to therapy forever. They were going for 5, 10, 15, 20 or even more years. They were in it for life. And I started to look around and I saw that these people were not improving. They were going in, they were venting. So in the moment, they would feel better.
But this was costing them a fortune and they weren't getting any better. And in my book, I argue that it's actually making people worse. And since that op-ed piece came out in 2012, the problem of therapy culture has just permeated. Every aspect of our society, and I think it's a real serious problem. So I'm here to sound the alarm bells on my profession that I think is actually making people weaker or sicker and also dividing our culture. We see therapists that are acting as social justice warriors. They won't treat someone who voted for Trump, for example. They're helping to divide up families instead of uniting families.