EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Steve-O Reflects on the End of ‘Jackass’

**Steve-O** (0:02)
I'm not giving up.

**Tawanda Robinson** (0:03)
I am selling the building.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:06)
The final season of FX is the Bear. The restaurant is flooded.

**Deven Rall** (0:12)
Everything's either gonna be okay.

**Steve-O** (0:15)
No, stop.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:16)
Or not.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:18)
We are outgunned and we are outmanned, but we have each other.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:24)
FX is the Bear, the final season.

**Tawanda Robinson** (0:26)
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Welcome to The TMZ Podcast. I am Tawanda Robinson, joined by Deven Rall today. We have a very special guest. Deven, I think you and I are both big fans of this person.

**Deven Rall** (0:48)
Well, I grew up with this person. Not actually with him, but watching him.

**Tawanda Robinson** (0:53)
Yeah, same. Like, the younger me right now is freaking the fuck out. Bro.
You guys may know him as someone who has turned pain and just like outrageous stunts into like the most entertainment or entertaining movies, TV shows you've seen. He's one of the most recognizable faces in Hollywood, honestly. We have Steve-O in person, in the flesh, in the studio. Steve-O, thank you so much for coming and joining us.

**Steve-O** (1:20)
Hey, thank you for having me. I love it.

**Tawanda Robinson** (1:22)
You got a new movie coming out. So we had to make sure that we we talked to you before.

**Steve-O** (1:26)
I'm not even sure that it was even about the movie. I got a personal text from you and I said, hey, you know what? Like, I really want to express my gratitude for you guys.

**Tawanda Robinson** (1:38)
No, thank you so much for coming on.

**Deven Rall** (1:40)
I mean, I've talked to you for like, what? I mean, I've been at TMZ for 10 years. I've spoke to you throughout the entire time. Right.

**Steve-O** (1:46)
I just had this really like meaningful moment on the stream with Harvey and Charles. Yeah. Harvey and Charles, where I just was able to tell them, here, I'm grateful for TMZ. I appreciate you guys.
And I'm able to say that because I'm not somebody who's concerned about being exposed for anything, being like caught or there's just nothing. Like, I'm an open book. And so, like, I don't have a fear of TMZ, you know? So, like, anything we might see.

**Tawanda Robinson** (2:24)
You don't have a fear of anything?

**Steve-O** (2:25)
I have plenty of fears. We can get into that.

**Tawanda Robinson** (2:27)
Wow.

**Steve-O** (2:28)
But, you know, like, and I said that, you know, because of the trajectory of my personal life, and, you know, like my spiritual path, like I'm very comfortable, like, with being an open book. And for that, and not having any fear of TMZ, like, it's great. And to be able to admit that I used to be like a wild, out of control, like, substance-abusing attention whore, and now I'm a clean and sober attention whore.

**Tawanda Robinson** (2:56)
Still an attention whore.

**Deven Rall** (2:58)
I was gonna say, the content, though, because I think it was even before I started here, I mean, we used to cover your arrests.

**Steve-O** (3:04)
Oh yeah.

**Deven Rall** (3:05)
In the beginning, and like all the crazy stuff that you get arrested, all that stuff. And now it's more fun.

**Steve-O** (3:12)
You're still covering my arrests.

**Deven Rall** (3:15)
Crazy stuff you do, but it's more fun.

**Steve-O** (3:18)
Right, right. And to have Harvey react to it, he's like, oh, thank God for just admitting it. Admitting it that you want the attention and your attention for it, you know?

**Deven Rall** (3:27)
Well, because a lot of these celebrities do.

**Tawanda Robinson** (3:29)
Yeah, they just won't say it. So Harvey loves when people are just actually authentic and real. Like, great.

**Deven Rall** (3:35)
How do you feel just circling back to just the movie? Like, how do you feel that it's all over?

**Tawanda Robinson** (3:41)
Like, is it really all over for real, for real, for real, for real?

**Steve-O** (3:45)
As far as theatrical film releases, it is so over.

**Tawanda Robinson** (3:53)
You know, like so over, not just like, oh, it's over. Why is it so over?

**Steve-O** (3:56)
It boils down to this. It's this simple. Knoxville cannot stand in front of bulls anymore because his brain has taken too much damage. It's too many concussions.
So it's, it is utterly urgent that we protect Knoxville's brain.

**Tawanda Robinson** (4:16)
Is he the only one with... They both have multiple concussions.

**Steve-O** (4:21)
Yeah, I mean, concussions are an issue for all of us, but for Knoxville in particular. And so Knoxville, he's just got this standard, this integrity for what Jackass is.