EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Karlissa Saffold Shares Unfiltered Thoughts on Blueface’s Relationships

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**Towanda Robinson** (0:34)
Welcome to The TMZ Podcast. I'm Towanda Robinson, and I am so excited to be here with you guys today. Even more excited to be here with my guest because she is a true icon in so many ways.
You guys, I'm sure have seen her on any social media platform. You may have seen her on Patreon, you may have seen her on a certain show. Sid Toc, Karlissa, thank you so much for being here.

**Karlissa Saffold** (0:55)
You're welcome, thank you for having me.

**Towanda Robinson** (0:56)
No, thank you, thank you, thank you.

**Karlissa Saffold** (0:57)
It's Sid Toc.

**Towanda Robinson** (0:58)
Sid Toc.

**Karlissa Saffold** (0:59)
Just think six and then ought.

**Towanda Robinson** (1:01)
How did you come up with that name?

**Karlissa Saffold** (1:02)
Toxic Backwards. When you look up the definition of toxic backwards, it's a reformed toxic person.

**Towanda Robinson** (1:08)
A reformed toxic person. So you reformed toxic or you still toxic?

**Karlissa Saffold** (1:11)
We're working on it. I'm in the middle right now.

**Towanda Robinson** (1:13)
You're just in the middle.

**Karlissa Saffold** (1:14)
On my way out.

**Towanda Robinson** (1:16)
What are some things that bring you back to the toxic?

**Karlissa Saffold** (1:19)
Baby mama drama, the kids, some tea pages. It depends on the day.

**Towanda Robinson** (1:27)
You said baby mama drama. Well, let's just get into it. You have a son. I'm sure you guys all know who her son is. The one, the only Blueface baby. They know who Mr. Jonathan is.
He's always on our social media and it's usually always with the girl, whether it be Jaden, whether it be his new baby mom. How do you feel about your new grandbaby on the way? Are you excited?

**Karlissa Saffold** (1:47)
I probably cursed him when he was little because I was just like, oh, you're going to break hearts. You're so cute. You tell all your kids that, but God damn, he just took it and ran with it. So I'm excited about having all the grandbabies. I'm not excited about all that comes with all the grandbabies.

**Towanda Robinson** (2:05)
The moms? Do you like all of his mothers?

**Karlissa Saffold** (2:09)
I like all the moms. I actually like all the moms.

**Towanda Robinson** (2:11)
Which one do you like the best?

**Karlissa Saffold** (2:14)
Obviously Jaden because I was with her when she was 12 years old.

**Towanda Robinson** (2:19)
Do you ever wish that he and Jaden would get back together or you think that's for the best?

**Karlissa Saffold** (2:23)
I would have always wanted him obviously to be with the first baby mom to get married. When we first took our family show for our reality show, all my sons, my daughter, they all had their significant other.
My oldest son was married, my daughter was married. They were just waiting on Blue to tie the knot. So throughout all of the drama, everybody is separated now except for me and my husband, but the show was originally created to show like the other side of the Cosby's. You know what I mean? The real black side, you know what I mean? A black family that's really out here, pushing the bar, really trying to make something happen. And in the process, here are my beautiful children with their significant others. And then boom, right when it went to my head, everything just fell apart. And of course, Blue's is the problem. Can I say that on TV?

**Towanda Robinson** (3:16)
Yes, you can say it, you can say it.

**Karlissa Saffold** (3:17)
I mean, he's really, Blue's is really f**king up the family.

**Towanda Robinson** (3:21)
Cause he doesn't be d**king.

**Karlissa Saffold** (3:22)
He just, he's just his daddy's child.

**Towanda Robinson** (3:25)
Oh, do you think he'll ever get married? Now that he's like experienced, cause maybe at one point in time when he was young, cause I don't know him and Jayden were like high school sweethearts. Maybe at one point in time before he blew up and became Blueface, you know, maybe when it was Jonathan, he would have still got married. But do you think?

**Karlissa Saffold** (3:41)
Before the new baby moms, there was hope. But once he got to see how down and dirty we can get as women, we are not just them, but you know what I mean? He never really got to see the ghetto side of the women.