Are “Healthy” Foods Actually Hurting You? Meal Tracking, Stem Cell Therapy, & Radical Anti-Aging Hacks With Jennifer Cohen

Ben Greenfield (0:00)

My name is Ben Greenfield, and on this episode of the Boundless Life Podcast, your cardiovascular fitness is split into four different categories. Your fat burning capacity, your VO2 max, your mitochondrial density, and your ability to be able to tolerate lactic acid, AKA the burn. If you are just walking or just sprinting, you're not going to hit all those variables. For VO2 max, once every one to two weeks, you do a hard, maximum sustainable pace effort, like a four by four minutes on a bike with four minutes of recovery after each. For lactic acid tolerance, you go hard and then you recover, but not for very long. This would be like the classic Tabata set. 20 seconds hard, 10 seconds easy, eight times through, four minutes, boom, done. That can be a couple of times a week. For mitochondrial density, you go really hard, then you recover for a long period of time. This would be like five 30-second sprints with two to four minutes of recovery after each one. The sprints are really hard. The recoveries are really easy. And then for fat burning capacity, you could do like a 12-3-30 or go out for a long hike or whatever. But you need to be aware that cardio fitness is not just cardio. Cardio is technically four different things. So if you hit those four, VO2 max, mitochondrial density, lactate tolerance and fat burning capacity and those are kind of like woven throughout your week, then you're going to get all of them. Welcome to the Boundless Life with me, your host, Ben Greenfield. I'm a personal trainer, exercise physiologist and nutritionist. And I'm passionate about helping you discover unparalleled levels of health, fitness, longevity and beyond.

Jen Cohen of the Habits & Hustle Podcast is incredible. She's a friend of mine. We recently, right down in LA at her recording studio, had a great discussion. We talked about light therapy, electricity, PMF, navigating our strict childhoods and health education, exercise intensity, how much is too much, heart health, optimizing testosterone levels, comprehensive biomarker testing, and so much more. All the show notes for this episode are at bengreenfieldlife.com/jen and Ben. That's bengreenfieldlife.com/jen, A-N-D, Ben. Enjoy the show. You have a lot of energy drinks here.

Jennifer Cohen (2:16)

I know.

Ben Greenfield (2:16)

A lot of just drinks in general.

Jennifer Cohen (2:18)

Well, first of all, that's actually, I don't know where you got that one from.

Ben Greenfield (2:21)

Your refrigerator.

Jennifer Cohen (2:22)

Okay. I don't know what that is. We usually start this podcast with these magic mine shots, and I'm sure you've had a million of them before, have you not?

Ben Greenfield (2:29)

I always look at the ingredient label.

Jennifer Cohen (2:31)

Okay, look at it.

Ben Greenfield (2:32)

Well, I got lots of stuff in front of me.

Jennifer Cohen (2:34)

No, this is a protein drink. This is Slate protein drinks. Have you not, you don't know about this?

Ben Greenfield (2:40)

No.

Jennifer Cohen (2:41)

I thought you know about everything, Ben.

Ben Greenfield (2:42)

No, I live in a cave slash do have a lot of stuff in my mini fridge in the garage, but some of the stuff just slips me by. I always like to look at the ingredient label though, like this one, caramel latte, because a lot of people see the stuff that they're told is held. Hopefully, I don't throw any of your sponsors under the bus talking about this stuff.

Jennifer Cohen (3:02)

No, you can't. Actually, this is one of these companies that I drink at least one a day, and I like it, but so you tell me what you think.

Ben Greenfield (3:09)

Okay, so this one, when you look at the ingredient label, it's brewed coffee, water and coffee. So the only thing I think about there when I'm looking at cans and ingredients is do they filter the water? Or do they look at the aluminum lining of the can? Have they assessed it for microplastics, et cetera? And sometimes that's not on the label. Some of you literally have to ask. Like, you know that really popular company, Zevia?

Jennifer Cohen (3:33)

Yeah, of course.

Ben Greenfield (3:34)

It does the, it's not artificially sweetened soda.

Stevia Sweetened Soda. I interviewed their CEO years ago, and that was one of the first questions I asked was, do you guys pay attention to the cans? Because you can have a super healthy drink and then just screw it up by putting it in the wrong delivery mechanism. He was like, yeah, we go aluminum free and we test it for metals. And I thought that was cool considering you could find it like Safeway or Rosars or whatever. Which a lot of times means they would be cutting corners. So you don't know about the can necessarily.