2967: Dr. Mike Israetel on His Dissertation Controversy — Here Is What Actually Happened

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Adam Schafer (1:52)

Mike, welcome back, dude.

Mike Israetel (1:53)

Thank you for having me.

Justin Andrews (1:55)

In real life, this time.

Adam Schafer (1:56)

First time we had you on Zoom, which was, how long ago was that when we had you on?

Mike Israetel (2:01)

My timeline's all fucked.

Adam Schafer (2:02)

Yeah, it was like a couple years, a couple years ago. Yeah, a year or two ago.

Justin Andrews (2:05)

Almost two, you think?

Adam Schafer (2:06)

Yeah.

Justin Andrews (2:06)

I don't know how I can look out.

Adam Schafer (2:07)

Yeah, it's been a little while. What have you been up to? What have you been up to the last year or two with what you do on social media and in your business? What's going on?

Put the business.

Mike Israetel (2:19)

Money's toxic. I'm in my post-money phase.

Adam Schafer (2:23)

Now, is that because you believe that or because you just stopped making money? So now you're like, it sucks.

Mike Israetel (2:27)

It's a cope.

Sal Di Stefano (2:30)

It's a good question.

Mike Israetel (2:35)

What did? A business is good. All that stuff is good. I'm back training jujitsu again, which is awesome because I wasn't training it for about a year after I got surgery and needed a heel and I had a lot of other stuff going on. And so it's been amazing to be back in jujitsu. And I wrote a book and it is about vanity.

And that's a big thing now. What's that?

Justin Andrews (2:59)

Cause you look great.

Mike Israetel (3:00)

I thought I had drawn you in my mind only.

Doug Egge (3:03)

Here you sit in real life.

Sal Di Stefano (3:06)

Fucking Picasso.

Justin Andrews (3:08)

He said vanity and he looked very, yeah.

Mike Israetel (3:11)

I looked down too.

Adam Schafer (3:12)

Let's stop. So let's talk about going back to Jiu Jitsu.

Sal Di Stefano (3:15)

You were about to, so you were about to, so this will get you our timeline, right? You were about to go to surgery, right? When we talked.

Adam Schafer (3:21)

What surgery was this?

Mike Israetel (3:22)

Oh, plastic surgery.

Sal Di Stefano (3:24)

Penile reductions.

Mike Israetel (3:25)

No, it was, your boy was out here swinging.

Sal Di Stefano (3:29)

Didn't you do liposuction? Is that what it was?

Mike Israetel (3:31)

I did lipos, also on the penis.

Sal Di Stefano (3:33)

And then you wrote a book on vanity?

Justin Andrews (3:34)

No, you didn't. I want to know how you connect these.

Adam Schafer (3:35)

You did actual liposuction.

Sal Di Stefano (3:36)

Okay, how do you do liposuction then write a book on vanity?