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2942: You Cannot Shrink Yourself Into a Better Body

Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth

September 10, 2026

Maps Abs and Butt You cannot shrink yourself into a better body. You have to build it first, then reveal it.

Speakers Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews

TopicsFitnessHealth & Fitness

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

If you wanna pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind Pump, with your hosts, Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer and Justin Andrews.

Sal Di Stefano (0:13)

You just found the most downloaded health, fitness and entertainment podcast in history. This is Mind Pump, today's episode, we talk about how to bulk and then cut the right way to reveal your abs and a round butt. Look, this episode comes with a new program launch. We have a new maps program, Maps, Abs and Butt. This program focuses on, you guessed it, your abs and your butt. You want to develop those areas, you want round glutes, nice looking abs, this is the program for you. It's also 40% off because it's a brand new program and we're gonna throw in a free maps program, Muscle Mommy 15 or Muscle Mommy. We're also gonna throw in the butt building diet guide and a supplement guide. You can get all of this at mapsabsandbutt.com and the code for the discount is launch. This episode is also brought to you by a sponsor, Seed, this is the world's best probiotic. Now the data on probiotics today is quite remarkable. Now we know probiotics can help with gut health. This is well established. Taking a probiotic can make you more regular. It can help with gut inflammation and digestion. We know this, but did you know the data also shows it reduces, in some cases, anxiety? It lifts people's mood. Did you know it helps with athletic performance? It's true. There are studies that show that a good probiotic will make you stronger than if you didn't take one at all. It also can help with fat loss. There were studies done on obese individuals and probiotics accelerated fat loss versus a placebo. Now the problem with probiotics is that there's a lot of companies out there selling them and they're not that good. Seed is different. Seed is the world leading company in probiotic technology. It's the only probiotic that we promote here at MindPump. So head over to seed.com/mindpump. Use the code 25 mind pump. Get 25% off. Back to the show.

According to CDC data, any given moment, about 55% of American women are attempting weight loss and only about 1% are trying to gain any weight. This is backwards, you guys. Even if you want to get leaner, you want to build first. Getting people to want to go in a calorie surplus or to bulk, it can be difficult, especially if they're afraid of getting body fat, but this is especially true for women. I had this one woman that I trained, and it was very difficult to coach her on nutrition because she was so afraid of gaining body weight. And so she went on a bulk with the goal being not to gain any body fat. And her surplus was like, I mean, I'm not joking, to the calories, like 50 calories.

And it didn't work, of course, because it's so difficult to figure out exactly how many calories you're burning on a given day.

And so she tried that for a while, and it was difficult to see the results that she was looking for, to build the muscle, to get the sculpt and the shape.

And after her trying that for a while, it was months, it was months of her, and I had to kind of not touch it. And we'll just focus on the workout with me. Eventually I convinced her to just try going in a three to 400 calorie surplus for a week. And I said, let's just do it for a week. Worst case scenario, we go back, no big deal. And within days, she saw huge strength gains, which encouraged her. And then we stayed on course, and through a actual bulk, she built muscle and got leaner.

Adam Schafer (3:36)

I feel like I've always got the two extremes, either that what you're telling, which is the client that is so afraid, so afraid to eat more, that even though she thinks she's eating more, she's having days where she's eating less. And so it averaged out the same. And so then we're seeing no progress as far as strength gains or building any muscle or building the butt that we want. Or I have the other extreme where it's like, oh, coach is giving me the green light to bulk in what I want.

Justin Andrews (4:01)

It's alcohol and pizza we get.

Adam Schafer (4:02)

And so then it's like, I'm not really tracking in detail. I'm just eating it all the time and eating a lot of calories because I'm told to be on a bulk. And then we get our body fat test back and we might have put on a little bit of muscle, but we also have put on as much or more body fat. And so then I get this fear and resistance to like trusting that process when it's like, one, it doesn't take a ton of calories, but it does take more calories. And then I think with my clients, it's understanding which one are you? Are you the type of person who is like afraid to put on any sort of weight? And so you're going to be that like barely any extra calories or a lot of times under calories. So it ends up being the average, or are you the 10 that will just fly off the handle and eat whatever and knowing yourself going into it?

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