WWDC, Siri AI, and all of Apple's platforms, on the AppleInsider Podcast

**Wesley Hilliard** (0:05)
Hello, and welcome to the Apple Insider Podcast. I'm your host, Wesley Hilliard, and I'm joined once again by William Gallagher. It's WWDC week, it's busy. You know what we're here to talk about. There's so much to get through, but first I wanna thank our sponsors, NordStellar and Scribe AI. And if you don't wanna hear about sponsors, we have Apple Insider Plus, which is where we're gonna be discussing at length how many machines William has accidentally installed the betas on.
But stick around for that after the show, of course. But yes, we're gonna talk about how the betas have been going so far, any glitches we've run into. I'll go ahead and say here, don't install the betas unless you're just asking for trouble. But William, how are you?

**William Gallagher** (0:53)
I'm all right, but I think at some point I did say, dear trouble, come visit me because I'm having hiccups with it. But in general, actually, I'll tell you what, let's do this right now, I'll go out there because I've been so horrible about this in the past. I so far really like Siri, the new Siri, okay?
Said it. Only on my Mac so far, I haven't got up my iPhone and that's a big difference. But I'm so much happier than I have been for what, two years now, or so, just in the beta.

**Wesley Hilliard** (1:24)
I've installed betas everywhere except the Apple TV because it tends to break home pods somehow when you don't have them on the same OS. So I'll be waiting for the public HomePod beta, so I can install that and the TV OS at the same time. So that'll be in July, but everything else has the OS 27 installed. I did get accepted to the Siri.

**William Gallagher** (1:51)
Now, just think if this suddenly becomes a solo podcast, we'll understand why. Everything is on the, okay.
Well, go for it.

**Wesley Hilliard** (1:59)
The machine I'm recording on is macOS Golden Gate, which is fine. The betas in recent years haven't been that bad, but still installing them on a primary device, got to be careful. It's my job, so if it does explode, I get to write about it.

**William Gallagher** (2:18)
But how? Pen and paper, I can see it.

**Wesley Hilliard** (2:23)
I have a MacBook Neo here that is running macOS Tahoe.
If I really needed something that was, if everything's spontaneously caught on fire because Apple put in the wrong code and that's a thing they can do, then yes, I have a backup here. But I also got on the Siri AI thing. The wait list only took me two days, three days to get on and I've been testing that so we can get into that a little bit. But let's get to the show because there's a lot to go over. If you listen to our quick post show thing the other day, we're probably going to retread some ground here. But I say we handle this the old-fashioned way. Let's go OS by OS as much as we can and then round up some features at the end.

**William Gallagher** (3:15)
Okay. You're not won over by Apple's tear everything together approach, which I could kind of understand. But as a Mac fan, it threw me. I got excited. This is the Mac bit. No, it isn't. So yeah, you're going to go do it.
I'm trying to say the word properly, but I just did. You're going to do it properly. Are we going to start with the Mac or do you want to go for that Apple Vision Pro thing you keep talking about?

**Wesley Hilliard** (3:44)
We could do Mac OS first, because honestly, there's not that much here.
So you wrote about this. What's changed with Mac OS?

**William Gallagher** (3:54)
Really only Siri AI.
You said you're through the wait list. I'm officially still on the wait list, but there is a way to get yourself through it on the Mac. So I have it on the Mac and I've been using it, and it is excellent except when it isn't. I haven't got it on anything else yet to try. But if you take away Siri AI, this is the least update of Mac OS, possibly ever. There's a couple of visual tweaks that are quite nice.
There's now a slider for adjusting how Liquid Glass is. But I had to take a screenshot of before and after to see the difference. Even then I was zooming in and thought, yeah, it's there. It feels a very begrudging feature from Apple, almost Microsoft-like in that they can say without it, but it doesn't actually do much at all. And there are more rounded corners. Yeah.