Will Climate Action Go Backwards Under Burnham?

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**Alastair Campbell** (2:05)
Welcome to a Rest Is Politics climate special with me, Alastair Campbell.

**Rory Stewart** (2:10)
And with me, Rory Stewart.

**Alastair Campbell** (2:12)
And we are absolutely delighted to have with us somebody that members will have been hearing a lot of recently. That's Caroline Lucas, former leader of the Green Party, who has done, I think, I know I'm biased both on the issue and on Caroline, but I think a brilliant series on climate essentially as a national security issue. Rory, why don't you just give us a quick rundown for those who aren't members, haven't listened on what Caroline went through episode by episode. And then we'll maybe talk a bit about that.

**Rory Stewart** (2:41)
Let me just start by a huge shout out to Caroline. So people who don't know her, she entered, I think, Parliament with me in 2010 when she was the only Green member of Parliament. So she was both the leader of the Green Party and their sole member of Parliament. She had been a member of the European Parliament before, which was quite interesting because she came into Parliament with experience, but also I, maybe Caroline can come back on this, but a slightly skeptical view, which I think, and unless I'm being unfair to her, to think that with some things the European Parliament did a bit better than us. She struggled with a lot of the mechanics. I mean, how on earth do you work out how the votes work without these huge whipping operations if you're a one-person party? She's somebody I really, really came to admire. She was both, I think, a really strong constituency MP, but also as I think you'll pick up as you listen to the series, an MP who is able to come across in a very natural, uncomplicated, unscripted way. Anyway, that's enough praising maybe, Caroline, for a second.
So far, there have been four episodes, which I'd really recommend on the climate series. The first one looked at the secret security threat that the government didn't want us to know.
This was a Joint Intelligence Report, which named climate and nature collapse as a national security threat. And there she interviewed a couple of fascinating people, left-hand general Richard Newgy, but also a friend of mine called Arthur Snell, who's a very, very unusual, bright, thoughtful former colleague of mine from the Foreign Office, who's actually written a rather brilliant book where he traveled around the world looking at the unexpected impacts of climate on global security. So big recommendation for that. Then she did the food security crisis with Professor Paul Behrens. Then she did, and this is one of the ones where she and I maybe find ourselves in different sides, but data centers or drinking water, what matters most. So big debate around data centers, which is spilling from the UK into the US. It's actually one of the biggest American political debates at the moment. And then truth about climate migration, which ties in a little bit to a recent episode that we did with Gerold Knauss. So really happy to have you with us. And Alastair, we had a number of listeners questions. Would you like to start with one of those?