Topics: True Crime, News, News Commentary
**Tony Brueski** (0:01)
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dre.
**Tony Brueski** (0:08)
Let's start here. You don't get, or you don't, people's writing. You don't get meat and marry in one day.
He didn't, so I guess calm down. Many people confirm that he went to New You four months after the children were buried. You often do not have the facts. I guess he went to New You. Shit, I was saying York all this time.
The four-month claim is true. Public record show Patrick moved to Manhattan in May 23 and took a job at Microsoft. Yes, and here's what the facts say. He took a job at Microsoft and three years later he got married.
**Robin** (0:48)
Isn't it amazing you moved to a city after a horrendous event to get away from that horrendous event, and you might meet someone in that city?
**Tony Brueski** (0:54)
You meet somebody? Oh my, this is what I don't understand about people on this whole damn thing. So he takes a new job, he's trying to restart his life after taking basically a finding-himself trip overseas. Everyone's like, oh, he went on a vacation, like he's on some sort of sandals beach or something. He was staying in hostels, so he didn't have to see families and children.
And basically, I think, I don't know, if it were me, I'd be debating of whether or not I'm coming back alive.
**SPEAKER_4** (1:24)
So, again, let's thought experiment this one. I like experimenting with this one.
**Robin** (1:30)
So, let's for the sake of this, say that, all right, we think Patrick actually did this intentionally and that he's actually behind this in some way, or he actually did something because he actually had the mistress on the side, so he's actually the culprit behind her. All right, so let's say that's actually true for the sake of this thought experiment.
If that was true, what would be the most advantageous testimony he could provide? Would it be the testimony that might actually at some point allow his former wife out after her therapy potentially? Or would he paint her as a picture of someone who is a horrible mother with psychotic breaks, not with psychotic breaks all the time, that's pre-planned, she's horrendous, I did everything I could to get away from her, I couldn't do, in other words, how would he paint her? Would he paint her as a monster or would he paint her in a picture of someone who actually needs help and be congruent with everyone else?
**Tony Brueski** (2:31)
That's an interesting take, Robin. That kind of debunks it all right there.
**Robin** (2:34)
I mean, seriously, what serves him? So if he did this action for himself, that means all actions would be self-serving. So if that is the case, how is it self-serving the testimony he gave on her behalf?
It's not. It's not. It's her serving, not himself serving. So, it's done.
**Tony Brueski** (2:55)
Let's go back to the relationship for a second. I don't know when they first started dating. Yes, he moved to New York four months later to start a new job. That is fact. And he got married three years later.
What exactly do people want him to have done? What would have been okay by the TikTokers for him if he meets... Let's just say, I don't know when he met the new wife, but let's just say four months in, five months in, a year in, whatever, he's at his new job in a new city, trying to start a new life, mourn the loss, and go through an incredible amount of grief that most of us, thank God, will never have to contemplate ever feeling.
When is it okay for him to, if he meets someone, to let them into his life, and then maybe it does turn romantic at some point, should he just say, no, I'm sorry, TikTokers say this is too soon, I'm desperately really want some sort of connection with a human being as I'm going through this, but TikTok says it's too much. I mean, what the...
**Robin** (4:05)
So I'm gonna have to put on a big conjecture hat on this one because we weren't in the courtroom, I've seen some accounts of the 9-1-1 call recently today of people that were in the courtroom actually listened and actually heard the 9-1-1 call. And I'm gonna play that and I'm gonna bring this in in a second because to answer the question, what would it take for someone to accept that from him remarrying or finding someone in his life again? For those people, from what you have seen from him now, I don't think it would be anything because they think he's guilty no matter what. So they're always going to have data and confirmation bias for any action he takes, which is going to be against Patrick. So there's nothing that he could do or any time period or anything like that. Because if you compare and contrast the people in the courtroom and how they testified, they were looking for something more from the father that lost his children and his wife is on trial. They're looking for an emotional difference in what they saw.
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