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**Sheena Butler-Young** (0:39)
Hello, and welcome to The Debrief from The Business of Fashion, where each week we delve into our most popular BoF professional stories with the correspondents who created them. I'm Senior Correspondent Sheena Butler-Young.
Somewhere between the fitting room and the checkout, a lot of shoppers now do the same thing. They flip the tag, not to look at the size or even the price, but for the fabric content. Consumers want to know what they're dealing with. Is it cotton, polyester, elastane? A few years ago, that was a niche habit. Now it might just decide whether you buy the item of clothing at all.
Gap found out the hard way this month when it re-released its beloved 90s happy striped knit. It was an instant nostalgia hit right up until people read the label, 80% polyester, 20% elastane. Within days, the comment section had filed a Gap classic somewhere next to Sheehan.
That reaction isn't really about one knit top. Searches for natural fiber are up over 100% in five years, suggesting this isn't just a niche sustainability debate anymore. Shoppers are concerned about skin, health, microplastics, and whether synthetic has quietly become a dirty word. So today, I'm joined by sustainability reporter, Shayeza Walid, to understand what's actually driving the run on natural fibers, and if this industry can give people what they're suddenly demanding. Shayeza, welcome back to The Debrief.
**Shayeza Walid** (2:01)
Thanks for having me, Sheena. I'm so excited to chat about this.
**Sheena Butler-Young** (2:05)
Okay, so consumers seem to have developed an obsession with natural fibers. And then these conversations around fiber composition have now moved well beyond these niche sustainability circles.
Shayeza, when did you first realize that this was becoming more than a sustainability conversation? What changed?
**Shayeza Walid** (2:23)
I feel like the realization started to come up in the last six months more than ever before. I think what started happening is people just, instead of just talking about durability and value being like, oh, this cloth that I have, it didn't last me as long, so I want something better material, is starting going more into this health conversation, which we weren't just seeing affect clothing, we're seeing it affect every part of our lives. As you said in the introduction, Sheena, people nowadays want to become more informed and aware about every aspect of what they're consuming.
I think clothes were this final frontier for that. People already care about what they're ingesting with food, what they're putting on their skin, and clothing became this item that not as many people were thinking about. Obviously, we're also seeing this happening in conjunction to the wellness trend. I wrote a story a couple of months ago that how sustainability brands are changing their marketing and positioning on wellness.
It felt like all this was coming together at the same time. It felt like this is more than just sustainability because sustainability means both for the people and the planet. It feels like the average consumer is not really thinking about the planet as far a lot of our sources in the story talked about. It's far away from them, but it's become a lot about how people can live better lives. I think that's when it started to become more than just about sustainability.
**Sheena Butler-Young** (3:40)
You say six months ago, was there a tipping point or a headline or a moment when you felt or you saw like it's hitting fashion in a new way? I ask this because I've heard a lot probably in the last year or two around microplastics and it's in everything we eat and now it's in your clothing. I've heard murmurings of that for a while.
I don't remember when it became a big deal when I started to think, oh, wait a minute, is this denim jacket containing any microplastics? Was there a headline or was it just this culmination after a couple years of chatter?
**Shayeza Walid** (4:15)
I think it's interesting because I don't think the six months has been like there was a headline in this last six months that really blew things up. I think it is very much a culmination, but particularly the microplastics conversation, I think it's just being propelled and it's just increased so much more in the last two to three years. That's partially because of legislation and advertisement bands that you're seeing. It's largely because of, I suppose, when you're watching documentaries or seeing something on the street, you see ads that are showing that our stuff is organic and better. I think it's been this compounding effect over the last two to three years, where you're seeing all these moving parts around healthier retail items.
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