Why d4vd's Chainsaws Had Zero Evidence On Them

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Drake.

**Tony Brueski** (0:08)
Let's go to another case that's in the news right now. Hearings going on. Diva David's, D4VD's preliminary hearing is putting sealed evidence into open court for the first time. And what prosecutors are laying out is a digital paper trail that allegedly tracks every step from the killing to the cover up. Defense attorney Blair Berk is cross-examining hard, attacking how evidence was handled and what investigators never tested. Eric Faddis, defense attorney, former prosecutor with us. And on what's landing and where the defense is planting their flag, along with Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, Berk allegedly ordered chainsaws, body bags. You can get it from Amazon. I didn't know this is labeled City Morgue. I guess that's where the City Morgues get them. Just go to Amazon, subscribe and save. And a burn cage under a fake name. But use his own credit cards to hand everything shipped to his address. When the concealment effort is that sloppy, I mean, is premeditation even a question at that point? What does that reveal, Eric?

**Eric Faddis** (1:15)
Yeah, I mean, what it tells me is if he made missteps in that phase of it, allegedly, he would have made missteps in other phases too, including the killing, including things leading up to this. He is allegedly on a podcast, on video with Celeste as a minor sitting next to him, and they appear very close. What other missteps has he made in this case?
That's certainly strong evidence of the cover-up of abuse of a corpse and crimes like that, but it's not necessarily direct evidence of the murder, although I think we're kind of going in that direction in this preliminary hearing.

**Tony Brueski** (1:53)
What about the fact that from what we've understood now in the preliminary hearings, the Chainsaws, I mean, it's very damning like you ordered three Chainsaws and a burn cage.
Yeah, and the Chainsaws, I guess, every one tested negative for blood and no DNA testing followed. Prosecutors say those were the central to the cover-up. If there's no blood on the Chainsaws, it doesn't quite rhyme as well as if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. But that seems to be like it would be a bit of a boon for the defense. If you got Chainsaws but no blood, maybe he was going to go trim the hedges or something.

**Eric Faddis** (2:37)
Yeah, maybe he was an aspiring arborist. I'm not sure.
But certainly it's helpful for the defense. If there was no biological material found on those Chainsaws. But also, why did you buy Chainsaws and a burn cage and the body bags? Like when you look at all those things together, yeah, there's, they appear.

**Robin Drake** (3:02)
I'm telling you, so as gruesome as it is, just reverse it. Put yourself the best you can in his shoes. Again, if you're going to go down the road of, all right, if he bought Chainsaws to do what we think he bought them to do, can you imagine starting up the Chainsaw? You see that chain going around like a million miles an hour and you're looking at that body and you're now saying to yourself, oh, this is going to be a mess. I think I'll put this down and I think I'll go down to something else. So that was my thing in the first place, way back when Chainsaws, that entire garage would be covered in a lot of DNA if you start using it. I mean, as if anyone's ever, so I heated my house all by wood growing up. So I'm intricately too much familiar with Chainsaws and axes and everything.
Wood chips go everywhere. Wood chips are a lot more solid and harder to fling around than flesh and bone. So I'm just saying it doesn't surprise me that he started one up and decided I need to move in a different direction. Again, innocent until proven guilty.

**Tony Brueski** (4:10)
Berk and Celeste had the matching tattos. Prosecutors say the two fingers bearing that and a tattoo of his name were removed and have never been found. That's not suspicious at all. The finger that has your name on the dead girl has been removed.
The defense position is he was not the cause of her death. How do you square that with the evidence that points straight to concealment of identity?

**Eric Faddis** (4:42)
Yeah.
Now, Bill Paddleby, the defense is going to have a heck of a time on this. There is just so many things tying David to this victim and to the body and to everything else. So, yeah, like, you know, why if a person, you know, let's say it was an accident. Let's say it was a drug overdose. I'm not saying that's what happened. Just hypothetically, if that's how an alleged victim died, then David wanted to sort of dispose of the body because he didn't want to get some kind of trouble, I guess, but then taking the finger off, that's really a concerted effort to ensure that this minor teen girl's dead body isn't tied to you because you have the same tattoo as her. It just like it adds a level of nefariousness. It makes it seem like this wasn't just like an accident and happenstance. They didn't know what to do. I don't know. Let's do something with his body. This seems like much more planned out and in terms of active concealment of one's identity.