White House FLIPS On MAGA! Insider Explains Why Base Is FURIOUS! | Hodgetwins Podcast | Ivan Raiklin

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**Kevin Hodge** (1:02)
The Hodgetwins Podcast. It's gon be a damn good show.
Yeah, we got a damn good show for y'all, yeah. We got a ex-Green Beret, highly decorated, and he's here from the great Commonwealth.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:26)
The Department of Retribution.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:28)
Yeah, he's from the Department of Retribution.

**Mindy Robinson** (1:31)
Not from it.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:32)
I'm the founding member.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:33)
You're the founding member, okay.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:34)
I'm not only a client, I'm the president.

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I'm the secretary.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:37)
The Secretary of Retribution.

**Kevin Hodge** (1:40)
Yeah.

**Keith Hodge** (1:40)
Now, you came here about a year ago. We were all excited about Trump possibly getting re-elected.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:46)
Yeah.

**Keith Hodge** (1:46)
And he's been re-elected.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:48)
Yeah, that was good.

**Keith Hodge** (1:49)
Yeah, what do you think of his performance so far?

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:51)
Ooh, we're just gonna go right into it, huh?

**Keith Hodge** (1:53)
Yeah, let's go right into it.

**Ivan Raiklin** (1:54)
Well, let's be critical about it, right? Let's be fair. Let's start off how things... Let's talk about the last 10, 11 months now. So January 20th, we saw what? Day one pardons for almost all the January 6ers. I give that about a B plus, A minus.

**Keith Hodge** (2:11)
I thought he...

**Ivan Raiklin** (2:12)
I'd give him an A if he gave everybody a pardon.

**Keith Hodge** (2:15)
Oh, he didn't pardon everybody.

**Ivan Raiklin** (2:16)
He did. Eight oath keepers, all nonviolent. All of them were nonviolent. Four proud boys, nonviolent, except for one, you could technically kind of say that, eh, if you're like a run of the mill, weak, coward, cuck Republican, then you can say, yeah, he was kind of violent, meaning he picked up a riot shield and dropped it off later. That's what they call violence. That's according to Dominic Pizzola's testimony. But the US. Capitol Police Officer, who was probably in on the Fed's direction, you know, the entrapment, he testified and said that, oh, Dominic Pizzola pushed me and pulled the riot shield from me. That's not violence. You want to see what violence is? Let's go, baby.

**Keith Hodge** (3:04)
Going upside somebody's head.

**Ivan Raiklin** (3:05)
What I'm getting at is not everybody was pardoned. They were commuted. So they're out of prison.

**Keith Hodge** (3:10)
Okay, I understand.

**Ivan Raiklin** (3:11)
But they're still felons, meaning if you're a veteran, like Stuart Rhodes or Joe Biggs, you know, you heard of Joe Biggs?

**Keith Hodge** (3:17)
Yeah, yeah. So you lose your benefits.

**Ivan Raiklin** (3:18)
He doesn't have his benefits. Like, he's still struggling. It's hard for him to recover, to be able to get his feet back underneath him as an American citizen and as a veteran, right? And to me, it's disgusting. You're just leaving him out to hang and dry. Meanwhile, the whole goal was to pardon one. President Trump wanted to pardon everybody. Somebody told him, and to include JD Vance, said we should only pardon the nonviolent ones. Well, if you use that same standard, JD, all eight Oath Keepers weren't even accused of a violent crime, let alone convicted. They were just convicted of the bullshit, seditious conspiracy in order to support the Nancy Pelosi narrative that it was an insurrection, which it wasn't. They needed to go after their political targets, namely the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys. Same thing with the Proud Boys.
If you're going to pardon 200, basically there's over 200 that were actually pardoned, that were charged and convicted of violence, that were pardoned. But yet these guys, because they're Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, just because they have the name Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, they're not getting pardoned, it makes no sense. So I guess if I was talking to Trump, I'd say hey, you got to think back and who's telling you not to pardon these guys? And they may have given you a political reason for that. That political reason is absolutely fucking unacceptable.