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**David Pakman** (1:23)
We have a packed show today because Donald Trump made a series of statements that I believe would have been unimaginable to hear from a president just a few years ago. He's refusing to rule out sending ground troops into Iran. This is the antiwar president. He's talking about destroying power plants and bridges, which is a war crime. And we will look at why legal experts distinguish between military targets and civilian infrastructure. Plus, after deadly ice encounters prompted Trump's own administration to say, hey, we're not going to do the traffic stops anymore. Trump steps in and goes, no, no, no, please keep doing the traffic stops. I love the traffic stops. We will also cover Todd Blanch's remarkable interview with Stephen Miller's wife on her podcast about Jeffrey Epstein, where he basically went, I don't know what you're talking about. A client list. I don't know anything about that. An investigation into Epstein. Why would we do that? He's dead. And we have another Taco Tuesday as the latest policy reversal once again dismantles one of Donald Trump's favorite talking points. We've got quite a program today.
The antiwar president, the peace president Donald Trump now says we may have to go into a ground war with Iran and admits plans to commit war crimes. This should be international headlines 24 seven.
And in the United States, it's kind of a shrug. Donald Trump was asked during what was supposed to be one of these very easy, friendly softball Fox News interviews. Are you ruling out a ground campaign? And Trump goes, no, sometimes you need a ground campaign. What started as no wars at all became sort of a war, but no ground troops. And it is now potentially going to go into a ground war with American troops in Iran.
Think about the lies.

**Donald Trump** (3:46)
You're foolish, but I'll tell you about Cargall and so we've already.

**SPEAKER_7** (3:50)
Are you ruling out a ground campaign in a limited capacity?

**Donald Trump** (3:54)
I don't want to say that either, but I would say no if I thought it was appropriate. Sometimes you need a ground campaign, but we have other people that will do the ground campaign for us.
But we already hit Cargall and as you know twice, even three times I said hit everything but the oil, just leave that little area from 25 yards out, leave that little area, don't touch you. Well, because I don't want that in terms of the world economy. You know, it's a chunk of the world economy. So we haven't hit that at some point we could. But I think it's unlikely as far as taking it is concerned. If we degrade them far enough and deep enough back, I would do that.

**SPEAKER_7** (4:32)
Do you anticipate?

**David Pakman** (4:35)
I'm trying to remember who promised no more pointless forever wars in the Middle East when he ran for president. It was Donald Trump. And we are now in a position where, yeah, he's hemming and hawing. But he's saying ground war. Yep, that might actually have to happen.
The follow up and more discussion. Can you even achieve your military objectives as if Trump knows what they are? Can you achieve your objectives with an air campaign alone? Or do you need a ground component? And Trump goes, well, we have completed them. So then why are we back to war?

**Donald Trump** (5:17)