What D4vd Was Protecting When Celeste Said She'd Go Public

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Drake.

**Tony Brueski** (0:08)
Let's go over to one more case that's had some interesting developments this week. Five days into testimony, 12 witnesses and a judge who looked at what prosecutors laid on the table and said the people met their burden on all counts. What came out of that Los Angeles courtroom in the David case was worse than anything the public had pieced together from filings and leaks. A timeline that allegedly starts when Celeste Rivas Hernandez was 11 years old and ends with her remains in the trunk of a Tesla that sat in an impound lot while David played shows on a world tour. The question going into that hearing was whether there was enough evidence for a trial. The judge has said yes. The question is answered. The ones that aren't are the ones you guys have been asking a lot. We're going to start with one of these. In February of 24, a cop stood in front of David and told him Celeste was 13 years old. He said she told him she was 18 and then everybody left. That was 14 months before prosecutors say he killed her. She was alive.
If there had been a follow up, any sort of looking at texts, any sort of, oh, by the way, you know, she's not 18, right? And then walk away. Maybe this wouldn't have happened. I don't know. We don't really have a system in place that does that.
Is there a world that exists in which he truly didn't know how old she was, Todd?

**Todd** (1:39)
I don't think so. We've got some very smart people who watch this podcast with us and somebody made a very good point yesterday.
If she was of age, she could have traveled with him. There would have been no need for an affidavit or some sort of paperwork for her parents to write and sign that she could travel with him wherever he went, right? So that should have been a red flag to him in the first place. Now, there are pictures of her where she looks like a young woman. I'm not going to deny that. But there's certainly plenty of pictures where she does not look like a young woman. And I think in this day and age, we are in a situation where people look older than they are. Guys and gals, period, that's the way it is.
There's no doubt in my mind, he was underage when they met, right? And at that point, there were several years between them. He was, you know, I think he was close to what, 17, 16, 17?

**Tony Brueski** (2:34)
Yeah, so like a five, six year gap here.

**Todd** (2:36)
Yeah, that's a big gap when you're younger. It's different when you're in your 30s. Somebody's 30 and 35 But when you're 17 and somebody else is 13 or 14, it's a big gap. And it's hard for me to believe that he did not have some inkling that this girl was underage.

**Lisa** (2:51)
Yeah.

**Tony Brueski** (2:52)
Lisa, do you think there's any world where he didn't know that she was a child?

**Lisa** (2:59)
No. And I say this because I was one of those precocious, matured, early girls, and I dated above my age range.
And every one of them knew. I'm sorry. They did. And I'm looking back now going, you know what? He was just dang creepy.

**Tony Brueski** (3:25)
And at that age, you're not thinking that.

**Todd** (3:28)
No, you're not.

**Tony Brueski** (3:28)
You're not.

**Todd** (3:29)
I mean, another good point from one of our viewers. He sent a phone to her middle school. Right.

**Lisa** (3:34)
So obviously he knew what grade she was in.

**Tony Brueski** (3:38)
Hey, there's the answer.

**Lisa** (3:39)
Flat out, we know the answer.

**Tony Brueski** (3:41)
Yep. There we go.

**Lisa** (3:41)
Thank you.

**Tony Brueski** (3:42)
And I was surprised this week to learn how much the family of Celeste seemed to have knowledge of this.
I mean, according to some of the stuff that's come out, they allegedly signed and had notarized the consent form for him to take her overseas. That was a big question. How is she getting on a plane going overseas without a passport? I thought, well, maybe she has her passport on her and she's missing. Maybe that explains it. No, there was like actually a notarized form that the parents signed allegedly for her to go. So the parents are saying, oh, this must be a great idea. And I don't know what the hell is going through their mind. Maybe the same sort of shit that went through people's minds. We talked about this a little bit yesterday with Eric Faddis, the Michael Jackson shit, where this is such a great opportunity. Oh my gosh, there's a famous person that's... And if you're speaking to a fairly disenfranchised group of people, people who don't have a lot of money, people who are in tough situations, do not understand what this family might have been, people don't see reality on realities terms sometimes. And I don't know if it's thinking, this is such a wonderful, lovely thing. Yes, he's a few years older, but they're going to tell themselves that there's nothing weird going on here about this. Or maybe it's okay, because in a few years, it won't be a big deal once they're all adults. They're not yet.