Tyler Robinson Preliminary Hearing: The Judge's Decision

**Charlie Kirk** (0:03)
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**Blake** (1:17)
All right. We're now in, I think, the final recess of the day, about one hour, while Judge Graf, he says he has 24 pages of notes to compile, take in.
He says he genuinely wanted to hear what both sides had to say in their oral arguments before rendering his final decision. But he does say that decision will be coming today. And so he's dismissed for a final recess. He's going to assess all that. We will reconvene and he will issue his bind over ruling. Now, things that could happen, I think, overwhelmingly likely, he's going to agree, bind over for trial. Open questions, though, are, will he throw out any of the lower charges? They took a lot of aim at witness tampering, at the endangerment of minors, or committing violence in front of minors, I should say. And especially, the defense took aim at the enhancers that they used to make Tyler Robinson eligible for the death penalty. So he could, in theory, issue a ruling striking those down right here.
If he doesn't do that, then we would proceed to bind over and having an arraignment. I don't think it's likely we'll enter a plea today. I think he'll probably schedule that for some day in the near future.
But that remains to be seen. I wanted to because we had a donation message right before we went back to the hearing earlier from Indian conservative that said Tyler deserves the death penalty. I still remember the day Charlie was shot. It still sticks with me. I want to see him face the consequences of his actions. So thank you for your support. Thank you for following us on this tragic, painful journey. But we have an hour to talk about here. We're going to see Andrew was in the chambers throughout this afternoon. So we're hoping that he'll get his phone back during this extended recess. Maybe be able to join us because we want to talk more about what I think is by far the most viral, the most attention getting moment of this hearing, which is what we were talking about during the last recess, the kind of out of nowhere bit where the defense team, it doesn't even seem to help their client, but the defense team just start saying, Charlie Kirk was a hateful person. It is true that he was hateful, and I'm not even sure what they were setting up for it. We should replay that clip. What's the number four? Clip nine.

**Richard Novak** (3:55)
There is no evidence of Mr. Robinson having heard or seen anything specific from Mr. Kirk or having expressed anything about Mr. Kirk until the statement which basically says, some hatred can't be negotiated out. So what is it? Is it political expression? Which political expression?
It is true that Mr. Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people.
He spoke hatefully of people who don't have traditional norm-conforming gender identities. He spoke hatefully of people who are not strictly heterosexual. He spoke hatefully of people who have sexual relationships out of marriage. And yes, it is true that the evidence from Mr. Twiggs is that he identified in a non-gender-conforming way to his friends and that he was in a romantic relationship with Mr. Robinson. But that doesn't mean that those personal choices by Mr. Twiggs and by Mr. Robinson equate with the hate that at least Mr. Robinson says he had toward Mr. Kirk. So we don't know what that is.