Tyler Robinson Preliminary Hearing: Day 4

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**Andrew Colvett** (1:17)
All right, welcome back, everybody. We've been watching day four of the preliminary hearing, and there is a lot of back and forth going on about this video interview of Lance Twiggs. Remember, there was a lot of back and forth whether or not he should be subpoenaed to be in the courtroom. The judge ruled against that, so they were allowed to use this video recording. Now there's redactions. They're taking a quick break.
And apparently, I think when we get back, we're going to see the video.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:47)
We're going to finally see some video and we're going to see, I guess we're going to find out, are there any text messages they got that aren't what was already actually seen by the public 10 months ago. We saw a lot of trench warfare back and forth over this. It feels remarkable to me, Andrew, that I feel you could reduce all the arguments they make to a couple paragraphs.
But it takes hours of back and forth.

**Andrew Colvett** (2:13)
Here to help us unpack some of the legal maneuvering here is Wendy Patrick, attorney and partner, Sam and Ash LLP. She has been all over the Real Americas Voice Airways covering this extensively. We're honored to have her here. Wendy, welcome to the show.
What do you make of this back and forth? I mean, there's this case, Rideau or whatever. My French is terrible too, actually. So there's also, they're mentioning Estes, it looks like. So please unpack what the details are being argued about here.

**Wendy Patrick** (2:46)
Definitely. I'll do so as a prosecutor and former defense attorney. I appreciate the promotion. I'd be making a lot more money if I were with a private firm. But your question is one that's on the minds of anybody who's watching. Why is it taking so long to show us the evidence? Here's the answer. You heard different cases being cited by different sides. But factual dissimilarity carries the day under facts like this. This is not a case where something came out of the prison. It's not a case that is detailing a confession under different circumstances that may be in one or both of those cases. This is factually distinct. It's the logic and the rationale that that judge had to consider. I'll bet he was up all night thinking about this. Both lawyers probably were as well. But this is the result that at least most people hope for in terms of transparency. Because we are going to get to see the video. Now, we're also going to have some redactions, but not nearly the extent that we were worried were going to be imposed yesterday. Remember, that was the big, frustrating day where everybody went home thinking, when are we going to get to actually see what Tyler Robinson said to the roommate? What he said on social media? And part of what the judge addressed today is how much have they already seen? Because if it's already out there, to say, well, now we're not going to actually let it become evidence defeats the purpose. The purpose is to ensure the defendant gets a fair trial, making sure that when we get to trial, as we will, this is going to be a bind over, when we get to trial, the jury can only decide the defendant's guilt or innocence based on admissible evidence, not based on what they read online or heard commentators discussing. So as soon as we get back, we're going to actually make this part of the public record so that everybody will be able to use it come time for trial.