Tucker on the Propaganda Pawns, Bibi’s Threat to Trump, and the Great American Betrayal

**Tucker Carlson** (0:00)
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**Tucker Carlson** (0:26)
In just a minute, we're going to play you an interview we just completed with our friend, Bret Weinstein, about the war in Iran, why it started, what it means, how it may end, and when. And we should say at the outset why we did this interview. Bret Weinstein is not an expert on military tactics or strategy. He's not a diplomat. He's not a farsy speaker. He is instead a biologist. He's a close observer of living things and of the systems they occupy and create. But why speak to Bret Weinstein? And really honestly, one reason, because he's honest. He's an honest man. He's a scientist. And the first requirement of science is, of course, honesty. Report what you know. But we know that he's honest because we've known him for almost 10 years now and watched him evolve in some ways from a liberal college professor at Evergreen to a Trump voter and promoter during the last campaign of Donald Trump. And unlike a lot of people you see in the political sphere evolve, Bret Weinstein kept the rest of us surprised of his evolution as was in progress. He didn't pretend, I've always thought this. He told us that he had changed his mind and why. So on the deepest level, he is an honest man, honest about the things he sees around him, what he thinks are behind those things, and honest, most important and most telling of all about himself. So it's important to get an honest analysis of what's happening now because the dishonesty is so overwhelming it's hard to separate it from the true. So if you're following this, attempting to follow it in this incredibly censored moment we're living in online, you're seeing all kinds of things that seem true that aren't. You're seeing true things suppressed, the most basic things. How many people have been killed on all sides? How many have been injured? You keep reading that Israeli Cabinet Minister Ben Gavir died again and again. He's dead. Well, he was in Jerusalem a couple hours ago issuing decrees, so not dead. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Basic facts, like what's the physical damage to all of these countries sucked into this conflict, you can't find because that information has been censored by those countries, countries in which it took place, and by American social media companies. So it's really hard to know what's true. Everybody involved in this conflict has a strong incentive to lie and to spin. But at some point, all of that lying becomes irrelevant. Rhetoric itself, propaganda itself becomes irrelevant in the face of war because war changes physical things. Not just words and minds, but physical realities like borders and populations of countries and control over resources. Those decisions are settled by armed conflict a lot of the time. They certainly will be in the case of this war. And so in the end, it kind of doesn't matter what you say. Somebody's going to win and somebody's going to lose and the world's going to be very different and the rest of us can assess those differences unencumbered or impeded by your lying, by your propaganda. And that may be why actually for a war, there's been relatively little propaganda around this. The current administration hasn't even really tried to explain why we're doing this, not very hard anyway. And in some ways, we should be grateful for that. It's a sign of respect not to lie to people too aggressively. The President of the United States today said on camera, we're thinking about using nukes against Iran. He said we could eliminate Iran, make it uninhabitable forever in an hour. We have weapons that can do that. Well, those are nuclear weapons. The President of the United States is saying out loud, if this gets more intense, we could nuke them.
Now, you can support that or disagree with that. However you feel about that, you know, it's not often that people are that blunt about what could happen. And again, there's been very little attempt to convince you that we did this in America's national interests. The Secretary of State just came out and said, we did it because Israel forced our hand. So they've been pretty direct, actually, about what is going on here and what the stakes potentially are. The President of the United States threatening nuclear weapons. OK. Well, that's on the table. The propagandists for the war, the people who really more than anyone else in this country pushed us to where we are now, are weirdly, unaccountably even angrier than ever. You got what you wanted, but you're madder than ever. That's been true since the very first hours. The second, the first barrage was unleashed against Iran and then the counterattacks from Iran against the Gulf and American interests there. These people have been enraged, very interesting. A licensed psychiatrist should study that someday. Why are they so mad since they got what they wanted? But the nature of their propaganda hasn't really changed. There's been no effort to convince you as an American citizen or a citizen of any country that it's good for you, only that we must do this and if you're opposed to it in any way, you are a bad person, not incorrect, not wrong in your calculations, not dumb, but evil.