Trump's Orwellian Maths and the King's Special Relationship Mission

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**Rory Stewart** (3:45)
Welcome to The Rest Is Politics with me, Rory Stewart.

**Alastair Campbell** (3:48)
And with me, Alastair Campbell. So with the King in the United States, we're going to be talking about his role in diplomacy. We're going to talk about Donald Trump and expectations for the visit. We're going to talk about what that says about the broader relationship between the UK.

**Rory Stewart** (4:02)
Special relationship.

**Alastair Campbell** (4:03)
So called, between the UK and the US. We're going to talk a lot about the Balkans because we did a very interesting interview with the president of Serbia this week, and we're going to get into broader picture in that region, which is, I think we don't talk about enough. And we're going to talk a little bit about what's happening inside labor on a day when Kierstammer yet again is facing a few travails. I had a wonderful expression on my German podcast this morning, about King Charles, said he's a diplomatische Wunderwaffe.