Trump’s 9/11 story falls apart as prices hit record high
The David Pakman Show
September 9, 2026
-- On the Show: -- Tina Kotek, Governor of Oregon, joins us to discuss pausing data center construction and Trump's threats to the midterm elections -- Ann Coulter defends Flock surveillance cameras while Donald Trump and Republicans support license-plate tracking and local data centers -- Donald...
Speakers David Pakman, Tina Kotek
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Coming up today, Donald Trump tells an extraordinary new story about being physically rescued by firefighters on September 11th, 2001 There's one enormous problem with the story, and I'm sure you can guess what it is. Diesel prices have reached an all time record in nominal terms of five dollars and ninety four cents a gallon. People might say, well, I don't use diesel. The consequences will spread from transportation into groceries, into consumer goods. It is a major problem. Trump's big Republican convention starts today, but there are candidates in competitive races who are staying away from it. Trump insists it's sold out. We know they can't even give the tickets away for free. But most importantly, Republicans think this might not be so good for them. We've also learned that Donald Trump has personally given over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to four White House employees, including an extraordinary forty five thousand dollar payment to Natalie Harp. Former White House ethics lawyer says we might have another crime on our hands, even though the White House goes, no, no, no, it's all fine. And Ted Cruz tries to explain Trump's disputed September 11 stories by saying, listen, it was a long time ago, which I believe raises a completely different question, probably a more serious one. And I will be joined by Governor Tina Kotek. Much more coming up.
Ann Coulter is defending flock cameras and she, I believe, is missing the most important part of this debate. Let's take a look at what she posted to Twitter where she said, quote, The hysteria over flock cameras is the very definition of a moral panic. There are cameras on homes, in stores, at airports, in elevators, in gyms. But oh my gosh, these are used to catch criminals. Here's how one police department used flock to solve three major crimes and find one lost Alzheimer's patient. And so she points out, listen, there are cameras everywhere already. And here are four examples of cameras being used for good things. And that's great. The question is not whether these cameras can help police. Of course, these cameras can help police. The question is what happens when cameras simply stop recording what's happening in public and they become a searchable database of where people go or where vehicles go and you can track it over time. And this is yet another issue, along with data centers where Republicans are indignantly insisting, these stupid people against data centers, these stupid people against flat cameras, what don't they get? Well, what doesn't Ann Coulter get? These are very different things. Of course, if I drive down a public street, anyone can see my car. There is not an expectation of privacy in the law. If I'm driving down a public street, if I walk down the street and one of these First Amendment auditors is out there filming trying to get a reaction. I don't have an expectation of privacy. If I'm just walking down a public street on a public sidewalk, I get that police officers can see my license plate. A security camera could record my license plate. I do not have a reasonable expectation that nobody will see me in public. But imagine that police can type my license plate into a computer and see everywhere that my car has been for the last months.
Monday, I went to the doctor. And Wednesday, I went to a political organization. And Friday, I went to a family planning clinic. And Saturday, I went for two hours to someone's house. And then Sunday, I went to, you know, I don't know, a state fair or a mosque or a synagogue. And you can now start building a picture of my life. And that distinction already exists in American law. This is one of the things that is missing from this discussion about flock cameras.
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