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Scott Galloway (0:00)

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Scott Galloway (1:33)

Banning the press is like holding your breath to punish the air.

Kara Swisher (1:40)

Hi everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

Scott Galloway (1:45)

And I'm Scott Galloway.

Kara Swisher (1:46)

Scott, we're both in hotel rooms. It's so seemy.

Scott Galloway (1:49)

Yeah. Where are you?

Kara Swisher (1:50)

I'm in Vienna, Austria.

Scott Galloway (1:53)

That sounds like a big speaking fee. You're in big speaking fee stand.

Kara Swisher (1:57)

No, I'm doing- I did a favor for a school here. They did fly me here. But anyway, you know, I speak German. I don't know if you know that.

Scott Galloway (2:05)

I did know that because you wanted to be a spy, but you're like, I'm here and I'm queer and I wouldn't let you. But you know Austria's biggest accomplishment.

Kara Swisher (2:13)

Edelweiss? I don't know what.

Scott Galloway (2:15)

No, convincing everyone that Hitler was German. Start that, open that, open that tonight at your talk.

Kara Swisher (2:22)

I think I shat. Open with that one. It's great. I just ate it the most. That is good. That is actually good. I don't usually like a Hitler joke.

Scott Galloway (2:33)

The dude was Austrian.

People think of him as being pretty German. Nope, Austrian. He's my favorite actor. Anything he stars in, I'll watch. Seriously, anything with a World War II in color, that's the kind of shit I'm watching now.

Kara Swisher (2:48)

The whole discovery success has been about that. But there's a lot of these videos of Trump yelling at the pilots of Air Force One and all the helicopters. So they call him Hissy Fittler, which is funny.

Scott Galloway (3:01)

That's pretty good.

Kara Swisher (3:03)

Let's not make any more Hitler jokes. Let's not do it. No. Let's not. Anyway, I'm here in Austria. It's a lovely, beautiful place.

We're both in hotel rooms. It's very scenic.

Scott Galloway (3:12)

For all of those men out there that have been texting me, that they find me offensive, and that I should really dial it back, I've been contemplating and taking the remark seriously as I make their wife's boyfriend a sandwich.

Kara Swisher (3:26)

Oh my God. Stop.

You stop.

Scott Galloway (3:30)

Is that wrong?

Kara Swisher (3:31)

People are mad at us. Well, no, not mad at us. I am in the tabloids now because I do.

Scott Galloway (3:36)

People are mad and disgusted with me. People are just like, I don't know. Oh, Kara, she's leaving.

Kara Swisher (3:43)

No, no. Now I'm in the tabloids. I'm leaving because-

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You're in the tabloids.

Kara Swisher (3:47)

Yeah, no. I'm in the tabloids now because the reason I'm leaving is because the person who runs CBS News, I used to go out with their wife and that seems to be interesting. That's my reason for leaving, which is insane.

Scott Galloway (3:57)

So I can verify, I can validate for all the people out there. That's not why you're leaving. You're leaving just because you're a pain in the ass and you're really hurtful.