"They Lied About Everything" Michael & To Catch A Predator | Chris Hansen
The Michael Knowles Show
October 18, 2026
Michael Knowles sits down with legendary To Catch a Predator host Chris Hansen to reveal the untold stories behind one of television's most controversial shows.
Speakers Michael Knowles, Chris Hansen
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Chris Hansen (1:15)
We found a house in Bethpage, Long Island. I'm driving out there and I'm thinking, you know, what if nobody shows up? My producer calls and said, look, there's two guys in 45 minutes, you know, get here. That's where the rabbi showed up, military intelligence officer, the lieutenant from the Washington, DC. Metro Police Department, who was in charge of motorcades, including the president's.
Michael Knowles (1:32)
Those were the second state, right? You leave the movie, which is supposed to paint you as basically the devil himself.
Chris Hansen (1:38)
You leave the movie thinking, this movie is about as connected to reality as a Scooby-Doo animated cartoon movie. I mean, it's so crazy fictional.
Michael Knowles (1:48)
Are you going to sue them? Chris, thank you for being here.
Chris Hansen (2:02)
Michael, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks for the pizza.
That is identical. To the pizza, Jeff Sokol brought to our Sting House in Fairfield, Connecticut.
Michael Knowles (2:15)
Should I have some pizza during our interview?
Chris Hansen (2:16)
If you'd like. It didn't work out so well for Jeff. I think it'll be fine for you, though.
Michael Knowles (2:20)
So, just to set the stage, Chris, only Hollywood could make a movie about a journalist exposing child sexual predators and have the journalist be the villain. I just saw the movie yesterday.
Chris Hansen (2:37)
Yeah.
Michael Knowles (2:38)
You're the bad guy.
Chris Hansen (2:40)
I don't understand the purpose of it. I mean, maybe I'm not sophisticated in the ways of Hollywood. I'm just a working reporter. I get that. But what is the purpose of it? I mean, you take something that has genuinely, I think, created awareness and a dialogue that didn't exist before. Obviously, there's a dark element of entertainment, there's a dark element of humor, and I lean into that. But at the end of the day, we're collaborating with law enforcement all over the country, and have been for 22 years. We started not with law enforcement, but it grew there.
Taking bad guys off the street.
When you look at the movie, as I did with my wife, we watched it in a theater in Times Square, New York City, walked out, interviewed moviegoers. We looked at each other and it was so over-the-top, so hypersensationalized, so dark, so twisted. A fever dream is even the director has said it is. It was hard to be angry about it.
Michael Knowles (3:39)
So you go to see it, you hadn't seen it before it hit theaters. You didn't collaborate on it. You didn't help write it.
Chris Hansen (3:47)
Was not contacted. The first official word from A24 came on May 27th, when they sent me a partial trailer and said, we hope you like it. We'd like you to support the film. We'd like to talk about advertising, buying ad time on your network TruBlu, our streaming network, the Takedown Predator series goes, and your podcast platforms.
I said, well, it's a little strange you didn't reach out before. Well, we didn't have to because it's a fictional story only loosely based on your real experience. Earlier on in January of this year, a colleague of mine in the podcast world who knew the director Lance Oppenheim well enough to reach out, did so.
Lance Oppenheim texts back and says, this studio is going to reach out. But it's basically a love letter to Chris Hansen. I'm a big fan of Chris Hansen. I said after seeing the movie, if that's this director's love letter, I'd hate to see a poison pen letter from this guy, Lance Oppenheim.
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