The Trials of Claus von Bülow: The Black Bag — Ep. 2 | MK Confidential

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**Megyn Kelly** (1:00)
Lieutenant Detective Jack Reese of the Rhode Island State Police and his partner are staking out Claus von Bülow. They are set up outside the von Bülow's place in Manhattan.
When Claus finally comes up on the sidewalk outside the couple's Fifth Avenue apartment, the detective quickly confronts him, questioning him with no warning and no lawyers around.

**Jack Reese** (1:23)
I didn't want an interview where he had an opportunity to think over what he would say to us.
So I thought that the best way to do that was to take him by surprise. He was obviously very nervous.

**Megyn Kelly** (1:35)
Near the end, the detective slips in one more question, almost an afterthought, whether Sunny would ever have had a reason to use insulin. Years later, Jack Reese describes the exchange to journalist Bill Curtis.

**Jack Reese** (1:50)
I asked a kind of a ridiculous question. And I said, you don't suppose that your wife were using insulin for any reason? And he said, by God, that's the last thing she would need.

**Megyn Kelly** (2:01)
That clinched it for the detective.

**Jack Reese** (2:04)
I said to my partner, mark my words, he's going back for that black bag.

**Megyn Kelly** (2:09)
Within three days, Detective Reese's prediction comes true. Claus von Bülow drives back up to Newport, Rhode Island to Clarendon Court, the shuttered oceanfront mansion where Sunny collapsed. The state police follow Claus, this time with a warrant. Reese rings the bell for a second interview, and while two detectives keep Claus talking in one room, other cops go through the house. During the search, officers make several observations. On the desk in Claus' study, one of them notices a scratch pad. Two words are written on it. Black box.
Then officers come upon Claus' closet, standing open and unlocked. Inside it, police find a small black metal box. The one Maria had described, the box that held the little black bag.
Sometime during the police interview, Claus excuses himself for a few minutes. When the detectives look again, the closet has been re-locked and the scratch pad is gone.
But the bag is not in that box. It has not been for weeks. Sunny's grown son from her first marriage, Alexander and the locksmith, have already carried it out. And by now, it is in an evidence room in Providence. Whatever Claus went upstairs to do, he came back down without it.

**Jack Reese** (3:32)
The week somebody said he hadn't found the black bag and he was probably a little concerned that he may have misplaced it.

**Megyn Kelly** (3:39)
The detectives never saw Claus open that closet, and they never saw him reach for the bag. What they had was a relocked door, a now missing notepad, and a man who had driven 90 miles to a closed up house in January.
It is not proof, but it's enough for Detective Jack Reese. A year before, all the family had was a maid's bad feeling about a case full of pills. Now the state of Rhode Island has the bag, the needle inside it, and a suspect.
I'm Megyn Kelly. This is MK Confidential.
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