The Post-Truth Internet + Assessing the Owens/Wilson Debate

**Charlie Kirk** (0:03)
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:46)
Lord, use me.

**Charlie Kirk** (0:48)
Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
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**Andrew Colvet** (1:17)
All right. Welcome back, everybody. It is Monday, August 17th, back in the Phoenix Studio. Honored to be here with you, Blake. How are we doing?

**Blake** (1:24)
I'm doing great because I will say, as I was leaving the set on Friday, the Y Reify Mike flag whispered to me and it said, I still love you more, even though Andrew is coming back.

**Andrew Colvet** (1:37)
No, it did not. It's an inanimate object. Loves me more, obviously.
We have so much to get to. What a weekend. Blake can say what he wants. This is America. I can't tell you how to think.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:52)
It's still America.

**Blake** (1:53)
It's true.

**Andrew Colvet** (1:54)
I can explain the facts to you.

**Blake** (1:57)
We believe in freedom and sometimes that's a good thing, and sometimes there's downsides to it.

**Andrew Colvet** (2:02)
My goodness. I was off this weekend. It was the end of the summer. I promised my wife I'd put my phone down and be focused on her and the kids, which seemed like a reasonable request and it was awesome. We had some great time with the kids. We saw bighorn sheep right up close. They came right to wear our house. It was crazy. So, anyways, great weekend with the kids, but there was a lot that happened and it's time to unpack it.
I will tell you, what a weekend to be away from your phone because there was this big debate with Andrew Wilson, Candace Owens, which you're going to get into.

**Blake** (2:41)
Which, if you watch that, send us emails and what you thought about it.

**Andrew Colvet** (2:44)
Yeah, absolutely.

**Blake** (2:44)
We're interested in that.

**Andrew Colvet** (2:46)
Yeah, we're going to be talking about that with Viva Frei in just a little while and then we've got our Commit 100 That is just popping off here.
We're going to have Cliff Maloney and Tyler Bowyer here to explain that. Then we've got the great Alex Marlow. There it is. There's the graphic. This election won't win itself. That is absolutely certain. We need you guys to help us chase votes. We're going to be chasing ballots, low propensity voters. We need all the help we can get. We have to fight, fight, fight. That is the key. That's what Charlie would have done. That's what we need to continue doing. But anyways, there was this crazy story, and I cannot help but feeling personally connected to it, and that is, of course, the Lindsay Clancy story. The reason I feel personally connected to it is because it seems like there is a one-to-one overlap of the same people that were attacking Erica, attacking Turning Point that are now raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for a woman who strangled her own children.
I cannot think of her more.

**Blake** (3:51)
By her own admission? By her attorney's admission?

**Andrew Colvet** (3:53)
She admitted it. She's blaming SSRIs and Ativan or Lareza Palm and all the PAMs in the zones. And it's the wildest thing. So now the Internet has taken it and is blaming the husband, is blaming the drugs, blaming anybody but the mom who did this. They're saying she had postpartum depression, that is a very serious condition, and that her anxiety medication put her over the top and she became a homicidal maniac, somebody willing and able to murder her own children.

**Blake** (4:28)
Blame? Okay, if you're going to blame pharma, at least you're parroting what the defense is claiming. What makes this wild to me, I think they're wrong, but at least it's within the universe of something that could be alleged. You could believe it, but the fact that there are so many people, and if you don't believe us, go on TikTok and look up Lindsay Clancy and just read the comments, go on Facebook. Maybe, honestly, maybe talk to your friend. If you're a mom, talk to your mommy friend groups. A lot of them are following this.