The meltdowns will continue until the morale improves artwork

The meltdowns will continue until the morale improves

The David Pakman Show

July 8, 2026

-- On the Show: -- Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, New York Times journalists, join us to discuss their new book Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump -- Republicans condemn Graham Platner over his sexual abuse allegations but ignore the sexual assault liability of...
Speakers: David Pakman, Kellyanne Conway, Kevin McCarthy, Donald Trump, Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan
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**David Pakman** (0:23)
Donald Trump's overseas trip has turned into a political nightmare. We are going to look at multiple viral moments, including referring to President Zelenskyy as Putin, claiming Japan launched one hundred eleven missiles and appearing to be guided around by Turkish President Erdogan. This stuff is going gigaviral.
And this is the stuff that Republicans said, oh, if Biden looks the wrong direction, we've got a problem. We are going to dive into it. I will be speaking with the authors of the new book Regime Change, Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan. I think it'll be a very interesting conversation. Plus, the biggest foreign policy victory of this administration, ending the war in Iran 40 times, has imploded again as the ceasefire is over. The US is striking and Trump says, forget about it. And finally, Fox News suddenly discovers that politicians accused of serious misconduct shouldn't hold office. But if they are saying that about Graham Platner now, where were they when it was Trump with dozens of allegations against him? What a program today.
Fox News hosts and guests accidentally described Donald Trump when saying that Graham Platner has no business being an elected official in the United States. Let's discuss.
You know, one of the kind of strangest things about American politics is watching people suddenly discover principles that they spent a decade abandoning. Take a look at this discussion on Fox News between Kellyanne Conway, longtime Trump advisor and supporter and Republican Senator John Kennedy. Kennedy goes, This guy is a predator. You don't want him anywhere near power. Of course, he's talking about Platner. But why doesn't that apply to Trump? And Kellyanne Conway says, Look, he's accused of abuse and assault and of disparaging our military. This is not OK. And of course, she's talking about Platner, but it could also describe Donald Trump. Let's take a look at this and see if we can parse it.

**SPEAKER_3** (2:39)
Notice that this guy is just, he's a predator. He is a predator and you don't want him anywhere near power.

**Kellyanne Conway** (2:49)
These allegations of abuse and assault and disparaging our military, calling them fat, you deserve to die, said to one of our troops and the Nazi tattoo just goes on and on. And it never seemed enough for your colleagues across the aisle in the Democratic Party to chuck this guy into the latest rounds of allegations, thereby showing Senator Kennedy that for the Democrats, they don't believe all women. They chuck that to the side when you're talking about a swing state. You're not.

**David Pakman** (3:18)
Listen, they don't believe all women.
I know that there are some people out there gallivanting on X and tic tac and different platforms going, I don't believe the Platner accusers, even though I believe all the Trump accusers because of some narrow, weird thing. Listen, we believe women, OK? When these two, Conway and Kennedy, go, you don't want them anywhere near power. They should chuck this guy.
If we're talking about the allegations against Graham Platner, I agree with the principal. I don't think this guy is a good candidate. I think he's got to drop out. I think he will drop out. I don't think he should be anywhere near political power. He has decades of documented poor judgment and disgusting statements and things that he said and now very serious allegations. I thought he wasn't being honest with me during our interview. That's all true. That's easy to say.
Public officials accused of serious abuse deserve serious scrutiny. No argument. But where this becomes impossible to listen to with a straight face is that the people saying this, Senator John Kennedy and Kellyanne Conway, they have spent a decade defending Donald Trump, not despite the allegations against him.
After the allegations against him, they go, this is the guy that we want. He's phenomenal. Trump accused of sexual misconduct by dozens of women over many years, found civilly liable by a jury for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll. And a judge later said New York law uses the label sexual abuse rather than rape. But the actions certainly describe rape. Republicans knew all of it and they nominated him again and they nominated him again. And tens of millions of Americans voted for him three times and they defend him and defend him. So I have a little bit of trouble taking lectures from these people about standards. Take a look at this next clip. Here's Congressman Brandon Gill speaking to Kellyanne Conway going. They didn't seem to have a problem with allegations from multiple women. You guys had no problem with allegations from multiple women about Trump. The difference is, I think Platner is going to be forced out. Trump was made president twice.

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