The Megyn Kelly Show: Andrew Huberman on Practical Wellness Tips, the Danger of "If Only" Thinking, and "Protocols" For Life

Megyn Kelly (0:00)

Hello, my friends over at The Tucker Carlson Show. Great to talk to you all. It's me, Megyn Kelly, and today we are bringing you an interview that I just did with Andrew Huberman. We did it on The Megyn Kelly Show. It was a fascinating conversation about how to improve your sleep, your health, your stress levels. We even cover nicotine, a favorite of Tucker's, and maybe some of yours, and so many tips on how to live a better life. If you want to check out more, head on over to The Megyn Kelly Show podcast feed and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts for free. There you'll find our daily coverage of news, politics, true crime, legal issues, cultural stories, and more. And enjoy for now this conversation with Andrew Huberman.

Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We've got a first-time guest on the show today, Dr. Andrew Huberman. He's a neuroscientist, Stanford professor, and host of the hugely popular Huberman Lab podcast. He has published more than 75 peer-reviewed articles in top scientific journals and delivered more than 100 invited research and keynote seminars around the world. He's had a fascinating life and provided guidance on how to live better to millions of fans and followers. But he's never written a book until now. His new book is called Protocols, an operating manual for the human body, and it's available right now for pre-order. It's out later this month, and it is a guide to improving brain function, enhancing mood and energy, optimizing bodily health and physical performance, and rewiring your nervous system to learn new skills and behaviors even that could positively transform your life.

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Andrew, welcome to the show.

Andrew Huberman (2:41)

Thanks so much for having me. Great to finally meet you, albeit virtually.

Megyn Kelly (2:47)

Yeah, same. It's a pleasure. I'm a big fan, and I've learned a lot from you over the years just from clips and from your show. So this is a thrill. And I'm loving the chance to get to talk to you about you before we kick off the health and other advice. So you're a California boy.

Andrew Huberman (3:04)

I am.

Megyn Kelly (3:05)

Right? Grew up in California.

Andrew Huberman (3:06)

I am.

Megyn Kelly (3:06)

And it seems like from the book, you had sort of an idyllic first 14 years, and the family had dinner together every night. That's so important to one's mental health and well-being.

And then something happened in your family that gets downplayed by a lot of people is really not that relevant to a child's mental health, but it is relevant and it was life-changing for you. And that was your parents' divorce.

Andrew Huberman (3:34)

Yeah, I did have a quite idyllic life. My dad's a scientist.

My mom's a writer.

And along with my sister, we had dinner together every night. In my home, there wasn't a lot of discussion about sports, but I certainly got to hear a lot about the luminaries of science and ideas from my dad. We always shared that. My mom has a real love of literature, obviously, and I have a close relationship with my sister, and everything was pretty fantastic. And then, you know, I was born in 1975, so divorce wasn't as common back when.

But at age 14, they separated and got divorced. This happens a lot nowadays, as we know, unfortunately. Look, I love my parents. Everyone did the best they could with what they had. But it was a high-conflict situation. And, you know, as things played out, I found myself disengaging from academics, disengaging from kind of standard social milieu of school. I went to a very, very good public school in South Palo Alto. Keep in mind, at this time, Palo Alto wasn't the Palo Alto that it is now, you know, of dot-com and tech fame. But most of the kids there were the children of academics or engineers or something like that. And we were well enough off. I wouldn't say we were, like, at the high end of the wealth scale or low end, you know. The focus in our house was on love and ideas. But what happened was, in response to that, and I regret this, and I encourage all kids of divorced parents, high or low conflict situations to keep studying, keep doing your homework, and stay engaged in school sports and activities. What happened for me was I ended up organizing my life around basically skateboarding and hanging out with skateboarders. Because back in the late 80s and early 90s, that's where all the feral kids went. And I talk about this a little bit at the beginning of the book, even though it's not the main focus of the book. What was really great was in that community, there were a bunch of kids whose parents were not engaged in their lives much. That was the unifying theme. That's why we skateboarded, because you didn't need your parents to come to baseball or soccer practice. But there's a ton of creativity. A lot of those people went on to create big brands like DC. I knew those kids that started DC, that started all these big brands. And some kids got sponsored and turned pro, others got really into drugs and alcohol, and destroyed their lives. And so it was a very interesting time for me, being completely free, getting exposed to a lot of things way too early, in my opinion, looking back.