The JonBenét Conspiracies: The Intruder Theory — Ep. 4 | MK Confidential artwork

The JonBenét Conspiracies: The Intruder Theory — Ep. 4 | MK Confidential

The Megyn Kelly Show

July 24, 2026

“MK Confidential” continues its deep dive into the murder of JonBenét Ramsey. It’s March 1997, and veteran homicide detective Lou Smit joins the investigation expecting to prove the parents did it. Instead, the evidence leads him in the opposite direction.
Speakers: Trevor Noah, Megyn Kelly, Josiah Thompson, Lou Smit, John Douglas
**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
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**Trevor Noah** (0:31)
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**Megyn Kelly** (1:24)
November 22nd, 1963, in Dallas, Texas, the day JFK is assassinated. It had rained overnight, but by mid-morning, the sky is clear and the day is warm. Look at the photographs of the crowd waiting for the president's motorcade, and you will see it. No raincoats, no galoshes, not a single open umbrella, because it is a beautiful day. Except that is for one man. In all of Dealey Plaza, in all of Dallas, there is exactly one man standing under an open black umbrella. And he is standing on the grass at the precise spot where seconds later President Kennedy's body will jolt forward and back as the bullets find him.
For years, that man is a gift to conspiracy theorists. Investigators call him the Umbrella Man. One theory holds that the umbrella itself is a weapon, that its shaft conceals a dart gun fired into JFK's throat. Some come to believe the Umbrella Man is the real assassin, because what possible innocent reason could a man have to stand under an umbrella on a cloudless day exactly where all the shots kill President John F. Kennedy?
And then in 1978, someone finally just asks him. The Umbrella Man comes forward and testifies before Congress with his umbrella. And his explanation is so strange, so wacky, it can only be true.
The Umbrella was a protest, not against JFK, but against his father, Joseph P. Kennedy, and his father's appeasement of Hitler and the Nazis in the lead up to World War II.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:10)
I just knew that it was a sore spot for the Kennedys, and the Umbrella that the Prime Minister of England came back with got to be a symbol in some manner with the British people by association. It got transferred to the Kennedy family.

**Megyn Kelly** (3:25)
The Black Umbrella is a visual insult, a reference to the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, who carried one everywhere. That's the secret, a grieving nation's darkest riddle, and the answer is a man making an obscure political protest with an umbrella.
The investigator Josiah Thompson, who chased that mystery for years, drew one lesson from it.

**Josiah Thompson** (3:50)
If you have any fact which you think is really sinister, is really obviously a fact which can only point to some sinister underpinnings, hey, forget it, man, because you can never on your own think up all the non-sinister, perfectly valid explanations for that fact. A cautionary tale.

**Megyn Kelly** (4:18)
That is the warning of the umbrella man. The strangest fact in a case is not always what it seems. And the murder of JonBenét Ramsey is full of strange facts. A ransom note on the family's own paper, a mother who talks to the cameras before the police, a father composed when he should be falling apart.
In the spring of 1997, one man walks into this case and refuses to trust his eyes. He wants the evidence and only the evidence to tell the story. His name is Lou Smit.
I'm Megyn Kelly and this is MK Confidential.
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