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Sudden Wealth Syndrome (EP. 485)

Animal Spirits Podcast

October 7, 2026

On episode 485, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: what can stop the hyperscalers from spending, why the stock market is neat all-time highs again, speedball capitalism, how capex cycles work, it's a high beta decade, how to lie with statistics, young people are going to be fine, the top 0.

Speakers Michael Batnick, Ben Carlson

TopicsInvestingBusinessNewsBusiness News

Michael Batnick (0:06)

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Ben Carlson (2:02)

Welcome to Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben. Michael, are you a Giants fan?

Michael Batnick (2:10)

Long pause. Ben, I know, I know, I know, nope. There's, you know what? I was about to say nobody cares. There's 11 people listening that are gonna care, that are gonna laugh at what I'm about to say. Yes, I'm a Giants fan.

It's been...

Ben Carlson (2:24)

I can't, for people who are listening, Michael's just ducked out in head to toe Giants gear.

Michael Batnick (2:27)

It's been over a decade since we were alone in first place. So I committed a Cardinal sin.

The Arizona Cardinals, pun intended, I suppose. Well, unintended actually. The Arizona Cardinals were favored two and a half points against my Giants. Giants are not a good football team. Be honest, I thought the Cardinals were gonna beat us. They're not good either, but they're competent.

So my biggest bet of the day, Ben, for five-team teaser, shame on me. But I teased them all the way up, like all the way up. Very conservative. The five-team teaser was like a plus 130 I said, I think the Cardinals are gonna beat us. But we're not gonna beat them by more than nine and a half points, are we? No f**king way. I mean, and I don't know if anybody saw the end of the Giants game. Guessing most of you didn't. But the Giants were up by three points, whatever it was. Yeah, so the Giants were up by three or four points.

Ben Carlson (3:16)

Oh, so there was a pick six at the end of that screw year teaser.

Michael Batnick (3:17)

There was a pick six with zero seconds on the clock. Zero seconds. All Deontay Banks had to do was go out of bounds or go down, which normally happens, it would have preserved my biggest bet of the weekend.

Shame on me.

Ben Carlson (3:33)

Okay, shame on me for opening up that can of worms and letting you talk about your bets.

Michael Batnick (3:39)

I probably was just gonna keep it in, but I couldn't help it. My misery, my misery needs to, it needs to breathe.

Ben Carlson (3:46)

That's an emotional hedge because you're team one so that you can't complain about that. It cancels each other out. You're fine.

Michael Batnick (3:50)

I'm okay.

Ben Carlson (3:51)

From The Economist, the era of speedball capitalism has dawned. I like this. One of my things that I've been on for a long time now is just everything is getting faster. I want to read you this opening paragraph because I think this is really good. I read this and I go, oh yeah. Every time something big happens, we think it's going to be like a signal of something in the market.

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