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Starmer Resigns, Reflecting Pool Fiasco, and Amazon Dumps OpenAI Movie

Pivot

June 23, 2026

Kara and Scott discuss Trump's mishandling of Iran, and his vandalism claims about the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. Then, lots of drama in Europe as UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer resigns, and Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni feuds with Trump.
Speakers: Kara Swisher, Scott Galloway, Harvey Levin
**Kara Swisher** (0:00)
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**Scott Galloway** (0:43)
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**SPEAKER_3** (1:16)
We all do it. You have a night for yourself, but don't like the sound of the silence, so you turn on the TV just for the ambiance. It's a little trick that helps you feel like you've got company and aren't alone. And other insurers, well, they may make you feel alone. But when you switch to Geico, you've got claims reps available around the clock.
So whenever you need, you'll have people around to help. And let's turn on the washing machine, just for good measure.
Isn't that soothing?

**SPEAKER_4** (1:42)
It feels good to have support.

**Scott Galloway** (1:44)
It feels good to Geico. Turn on your cameras. Are the producers laughing? That's my limitless test. Why do they have their head in their hands?

**Kara Swisher** (1:54)
Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

**Scott Galloway** (1:59)
Bonsoir, Kara.

**Kara Swisher** (2:00)
Bonsoir. Bonsoir. How are you?
How are you? Oh, that's our entire French.

**Scott Galloway** (2:06)
That's it. We're done.

**Kara Swisher** (2:08)
Cougo.

**Scott Galloway** (2:09)
My mom owned a Cougo.

**Kara Swisher** (2:11)
Yeah. The French, I think, are in, for some reason, I feel like, where are they?
I think they were in New York getting up to all kind of business because of the World Cup. Well, we're here.

**Scott Galloway** (2:21)
Oh, the French team is outstanding. I hate to say it.

**Kara Swisher** (2:23)
The French team is in the United States, I believe, where they were doing all kinds of French things, and we're here doing all kinds of American things. You are far away from me that we're in the same general area right now. I just got here to Cannes.

**Scott Galloway** (2:36)
I'm on this wonderful island called Hotel du Cap. We've been avoiding you. I mean, we can't wait to see you. Yeah, I know.

**Kara Swisher** (2:42)
You're not going to see the kids. They're here though. They're out. And about with the crepes right now, outside of the beach in Cannes and everything. So we just got here by train. I have to tell you, the weather here is lovely. In Paris, it was so hot. Like this sweltering heat dome across Europe is not a little thing. It's crazy.
It's like so hot. I've never experienced anything like it, I have to say.

**Scott Galloway** (3:04)
Paris in summer isn't a city. It's a convection oven with better architecture. I mean, it starts to heat up.

**Kara Swisher** (3:10)
Yeah.

**Scott Galloway** (3:12)
I mean, there's something about London when it's hot. When it's 78 in LA, you think, oh, it's so pleasant, like breeze. When it's 78 in London, it feels like you're in Africa and you could die.

**Kara Swisher** (3:26)
Oh, right.

**Scott Galloway** (3:27)
For some reason, heat in Europe takes on a different dimension. I don't know if that's because they don't have air conditioning or what it is.

**Kara Swisher** (3:33)
No air conditioning in the apartment we rented. That was nice. That was a lovely little extra part of it. It was a beautiful apartment, but then it was so hot.
It was like an oven. Anyway, now we're here at the beach with you.

**Scott Galloway** (3:43)
Now, six to 54 euro burgers. Pool Boy is asking me, what type of lager would you like Mr. Galloway?

**Kara Swisher** (3:51)
I know. It's expensive where you are. We're staying in a beautiful apartment Vox got for us, which is nice.

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