Siri AI, Snap Spectacles, and iPhone rumors, on the AppleInsider Podcast

**William Gallagher** (0:05)
Hello, welcome to the Apple Insider Podcast. I'm William Gallagher, our sponsors this week, CleanMyMac and Nord Stella. More about them later, unless you're a subscriber to Apple Insider Plus, in which case, who said that? But whichever way you listen to us or watch us, and I've just realized if you're watching, I look like I'm wearing pajama top with a really, really big button that's the microphone. I might get a jacket later before Apple Insider Plus. Whatever you watch, whatever you listen, I am joined this week as ever by Wesley Hilliard, and there's so much to ask him about this. But first, Wes, this is the obvious question, I'm sorry. You're on betas everywhere.
Can you hear me? Is everything working?

**Wesley Hilliard** (0:45)
Oh yeah, no, everything's going well. Boot loops on iPad daily, otherwise fine.
Nothing really catastrophic. I think the betas have been really stable, especially on iPhone. The only thing that I've noticed is a few apps just slowing down or acting like there's a compatibility issue. But there's updates coming in every day that fixes a lot of this. Even though the developers can't target iOS 27 yet, they can find bugs and correct them. So I expect this will be a really smooth beta period, but that could always be blown up by beta 2

**William Gallagher** (1:21)
Well, yeah, plus also I didn't expect this. You've mentioned boot loops before.
I've had problems with the betas. I've had problems with the betas in years before, and I've even bricked the device a long time ago. I have not had this recurring boot loop thing that you get. So here we are on similar devices, same updates, and it can affect us differently. So I think it really is important that people do not install these things.

**Wesley Hilliard** (1:45)
I saw someone today say their Siri AI cannot search their mail for whatever reason. And they're still indexing, but the index seems to occur in such a specific way that it can be random what's indexed first or last, and this person's mail just isn't appearing in search at all. So be patient, it's beta one.
I do find it funny when people run to the internet to post what's broken in beta one, as if Apple failed when you're beta testing a developer beta. This isn't even public. Apple doesn't even want this on your everyday iPhone. They weren't against it. It is actually a problem to run this on your personal devices. We forget that because the betas have gotten so good, but they are still betas. And you are going to run into problems. It's not going to be perfect. I believe William has a few things to complain about Siri today.
We'll get there. But I do want to say a few things first. Gemini frontier models was what I was trying to pull out last week. My brain just ejected it.

**William Gallagher** (2:53)
Yes, yes.

**Wesley Hilliard** (2:54)
So the frontier models are what... So Google made a specific version of its frontier model, handed it to Apple, said, go nuts.
Apple could tweak it for what they want. And they used that to help build their new Apple foundation models. Again, to reiterate here, there is no Gemini assistant presence, no Google search, no Google code, no Google server and like anything in Apple intelligence. Yes, Apple is using Google servers for private cloud compute. It's an Apple server and everything, but where it's located. So none of your data is going to Google. Just wanted to reiterate that.

**William Gallagher** (3:32)
Okay. It almost feels like Apple didn't get enough out of Google for their billion a year. You know, they should get something more.

**Wesley Hilliard** (3:39)
I think they got a good deal, actually. I think Google frontier access on this level is worth way more than a billion dollars, but Apple got off pretty cheap.
On top of that, I said at least two, maybe three times the word cabernet, which is a wine. I was referring to Cabaret, Broadway musical.

**William Gallagher** (4:01)
I just assumed that I had heard of it.

**Wesley Hilliard** (4:04)
Yeah.

**William Gallagher** (4:05)
Well, I heard it and I thought, oh, I don't know that one.

**Wesley Hilliard** (4:10)
What are those silly brain worm things that happened in a typo when I was writing it? And I had to go back and correct it, but it got so lodged.
It got so lodged in my brain that it just stuck. That is the name now. I was saying Cabaret in my head. It came out Cabaret. That's just how it works. This is a podcast, people. Brains are silly sometimes.