Sheikh Uthman vs 10 Christian Apologists | DSH #2089

**Shaykh Uthman** (0:00)
According to the Christian Bible, after he's been resurrected, in heaven, after being glorified, he still says, My God.

**God Logic** (0:07)
So Jesus here, as you just admitted, unqualified, claims to be the first and the last. So by your own admission, can you admit that even by Islamic standards, Jesus claims to be God.

**Shaykh Uthman** (0:19)
These people who were Jewish scholars, people of the Bible that you have conceded and quoted, actually said, Yes, we saw the Prophet Muhammad, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, clearly mentioned the Bible more than what we would even see today. Very interestingly, and they accepted Islam from it.

**Elijah Johnson** (0:33)
The speaker says, I am Yahweh, I am the first and the last. In Revelation 22 verse 13, Jesus identifies himself as, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

**Shaykh Uthman** (0:43)
For example, in 1 John 5, 7, you will find the heavenly father, the word and the Holy Spirit. These were infamous additions from later generations. Evidence both external and internal show that they are against their authenticity.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:57)
It says in chapter 3 verse 55, that Allah will make the followers of Jesus uppermost until the day of resurrection. That means that the message of Jesus could never have been corrupted. This text could never have been corrupted. So it looks like according to you, Allah failed to keep his promise to the believers, to the previous prophets, therefore Allah is false. Jesus never mentioned Ahmed. Ahmed is not in the Bible.

**Shaykh Uthman** (1:28)
Jesus is not Almighty God according to the Bible.

**God Logic** (1:31)
All right. So I kind of want to take a little bit of a different angle.
I want to do this in a way that relates to you and your theology. So the Quran has names and titles of Allah that you would agree only apply to him, no creature, no angel, no prophet can claim these titles or also be what is called shirk or associating a partner with them. Just quickly, you agree with that?

**Shaykh Uthman** (1:53)
That is incorrect.

**God Logic** (1:54)
It's incorrect?

**Shaykh Uthman** (1:55)
It's incorrect. So just because you want to get into Islamic aqidah because that's off the prompt.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:59)
No, it's not.

**God Logic** (1:59)
It's tying into the point.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:01)
Okay.

**Shaykh Uthman** (2:01)
So do you want me to explain that point then?

**Jerome Chukwuwem** (2:03)
Because you're incorrect on it.

**God Logic** (2:04)
So you're saying, creatures can actually share in the names and titles of Allah?

**Shaykh Uthman** (2:11)
Can I respond?

**Sean Kelly** (2:11)
Please.

**God Logic** (2:12)
It's a yes or no.

**Shaykh Uthman** (2:13)
I'm not going to do yes or no. If you're going to ask a question, I'm going to respond.

**Sean Kelly** (2:15)
It sounds like a line of logic that he's trying to run by. So if you're asking for a yes or no, you can do a yes and I have a clarifier. And then if you want to get through your thought on the line of logic and then offer the clarifier.

**Shaykh Uthman** (2:26)
Yes, I have a clarifier, which is that there are certain sifat that are only for Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, like ar-Rahman that cannot be used for any of the creation. But there are sifat like raheem, which can be used for creation. Allah is wudud, He is loving. That doesn't mean that the creation is not loving. Of course, the characters of Allah are unique to Him. But there are some that the humanity does share in as well. Allah is living. We are all living. But the way Allah is living is unique to Him. So your base point was incorrect. And I hope that's clarification helps.

**God Logic** (2:56)
It's not because I didn't ask about whether or not we share in his attributes like, Oh, I'm merciful, Allah is merciful. So yeah, we're both merciful. I didn't ask that. So for example, can someone be called Al-Raheem?

**Shaykh Uthman** (3:06)
Again, for Al-Raheem, if you put the part, can I speak?

**SPEAKER_4** (3:12)
Okay, I got you.

**SPEAKER_7** (3:13)
I got you.

**Shaykh Uthman** (3:14)
He seems like you're about to speak. So like Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is Al-Rahman, that is unique to him.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:21)
Nobody can be called, right?

**Shaykh Uthman** (3:22)
But even the indefinite Al can be used with certain characteristics. For example, Al-Wudud, the most loving. But the way that it applies to Allah is unique to him. But as you earlier said, that those are only for him, that is incorrect. Some are shared, not just that they are merciful, very merciful, but to the level of Rahman, no.