Shane Gillis vs SNL: Round 2

Tom Segura (0:05)

Welcome to another episode of 2 Bears, 1 Cave.

I'm in Austin, Texas. You're in Jude Orchidies, and you are, what are you doing there again?

Bert Kreischer (0:17)

I'm doing the New York Food and Wine Festival. I'm doing Burger Bash with Rachael Ray.

Tom Segura (0:22)

That's right. You were doing that. You were doing some pro-Palestine rally, and now you're here, and you're just going to, have you done the Rachael thing yet?

Bert Kreischer (0:31)

I did an episode of Something's Burning with Rachael Ray and Chris Distefano. I did an episode with The Basement Yard. I did an episode with Mark Norman and Keith Robinson.

Tom Segura (0:41)

Okay.

Bert Kreischer (0:44)

And then I do this, and then I go to London for the Jaguars game, then I go work out with Mark Wahlberg on Monday.

Tom Segura (0:48)

That's a full fucking number of days you have there, man.

Bert Kreischer (0:51)

I know, man, and I think I have COVID. Keep going.

Tom Segura (0:53)

Keep fucking going. Well, that's exciting. I think we should probably address the hottest topic in all of comedy right now. And that is our... Tony Hitchcock's special.

SPEAKER_4 (1:04)

Wait, what were you gonna say?

Tom Segura (1:07)

Our friend, Shane Gillis, in a bit of a firestorm, I'm sure you've seen by now, hosted SNL last weekend, did a monologue, and it took the interwebs by storm. And here's all...

Bert Kreischer (1:24)

It's crazy.

Tom Segura (1:25)

Here's what I wanna say about it, because I know we can just say it and then we can move on. There's a couple of things. I know that like, I never believe in policing the masses of like what you think of what comedians said.

I'm a proponent of like, if you're offended, or if you're upset and you wanna be outspoken, I support that. I feel like people have the right to feel, wherever they wanna feel. And I think what happened in this case is that there are these legitimate feelings that people have about misogyny or about injustice, about the way women are treated, whether it's in certain settings and whether it's colleges, gyms, or just as a whole, maybe the feeling that a lot of women have legitimate frustrations with a lot of things in society. And I think those are all things that are worth talking about.

I also think more than one thing can be true. And while I understand that it was used as like this lightning rod to have these conversations, I think, I feel like I want to say that as far as Shane goes, I know a lot of people probably who didn't know who Shane was, as popular as he is, discovered him from this clip. Like, it became 100%.

Bert Kreischer (3:01)

That's so funny, because I assume everyone knows who Shane is. I think he is, he is, in my opinion, the biggest thing to happen to comedy since Dane Cook, Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy.

Tom Segura (3:17)

He is very popular, and 100% everybody does not know him.

And millions of people who are not into, you forget that stand-up is ultimately not, it's not the most popular, like, there's a lot of people who go, yeah, I know who Dave Chappelle and Seinfeld are. They don't know who anybody is. And those people also were sent a clip, or their friend was like, have you seen this thing from SNL? And they go, I don't watch SNL, who's this? And they discovered him in that clip.

I only wanted to say that like, this clip, this set doesn't represent who that guy is. Shane is, and there's a lot of people in our business who I would be like, I wouldn't say anything, but the reason I wouldn't say anything is because I would be like, this guy is an asshole.

He's a good guy. And I just feel obligated, I just wanted to say that he's a really good guy, a really genuine dude, really genuine, authentic, grounded guy, a good friend, like loves his parents, loves his family, loves his friends. And I know there's people who say that, who see that clip and they go like, you know, what an asshole or like this guy's not funny. And I just wanted to tell you like that does not represent how funny that guy is. He's a legitimately very, very funny guy. And I feel bad that I don't think anyone ever wants to be caught. I know people are like, oh, he doesn't care, he's big. But it sucks to get like in the crosshairs of something like that. I know it wasn't his intention. And I know that intention doesn't excuse what you, like if you're fired up about, like it doesn't excuse things. My point is essentially this, more than one thing can be true. People can be genuinely like upset or happy to have conversations that they feel like need to happen about women and their appearance or attire or how they're spoken to or misogyny. All these topics are like legit to talk about. Secondly, or with going with that statement, I feel like concurrently, I guess you can also say that this guy is a good guy. I really think it's important to say he's a good guy and he's a funny guy. He's a really funny guy. He's one of our best as far as somebody who can do so many things. He's a funny guy on stage. He's funny as an actor, as a sketch performer, as a podcaster. He's just a really funny dude. And I don't think that that set represents how talented that guy is. He's just a really good dude. And I hope, I don't know how he's going to choose to like navigate this or say he'll make his choices and he's a smart guy too. But I will tell you that that doesn't represent who that guy is.