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Rep. Andrew Ireland Joins!

Hammer + Nigel Show Podcast

September 16, 2026

Andrew Ireland  calls-in to talk about the failing justice system in Marion County, what's being done at a state level to help local Indy crime and more.

Speakers Nigel, Jason Hammer, Andrew Ireland

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Nigel (0:00)

You're listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel, Jason Hammer right over there with a very special guest on the hotline.

Jason Hammer (0:08)

Representative Andrew Ireland joining us, and representative, thank you so much for the time. You were at this press conference earlier today. I believe it was put on by the FOP, but this was in response to this Julian Wagner character, who for all intents and purposes, is a self-admitted sexual deviant here. Back a year or so ago, he made hundreds of purchase of child sexual abuse material using cryptocurrency.

He entered a plea deal, and lo and behold, this guy who has tons of underage people being the victims of horrific acts on tape, while he was being an educator, this guy is not going to see any jail time representative. What the hell is going on here?

Andrew Ireland (1:07)

That's a great question. What the hell is going on here? Good to be back, guys. Listen, I think this is indicative of the broader problem we see in Marion County, where you've got both a prosecutor and a whole bunch of judges on the Marion County Superior Court that clearly are not interested in justice. I mean, Julian Wachner should have spent decades in jail for what he did. I mean, just the multiple felonies that he was charged with alone would have put him in jail for over a decade, unfortunately, because the prosecutor cut this plea deal where he said, well, up to 10 years, we'll leave it up to the judge and they get to the court. They don't really argue for it to the judge, given all the discretion that the prosecutor gave him. What this agreement said, fine, you can walk free. You're going to put you on probation.

We're going to put you on the offender registry. So he has to register as a sex offender, which is interesting to me. So to do that, one of the things that we're saying is, hey, this guy is so dangerous. Moms and dads in Indianapolis, we want you to know where he lives in case he gets too close to your kids. And then on top of that, he can't be within a thousand feet of a school. So this guy is so dangerous that he can't be within a thousand feet of a school, but apparently not too dangerous to put in a jail cell.

Jason Hammer (2:21)

And also, oh, by the way, they found cocaine on his person as well, which would be a felony in its own right. But some of the material that they found on this guy, we're talking about young kids, like around the age of six and then above, six-year-olds doing horrific things.

It's unspeakable to me that this guy is not going to see the inside of a jail cell. So Andrew, how does this happen in Marion County? Why do these types of things always happen here in Marion County?

Andrew Ireland (3:01)

Yeah, I mean, we've got a broken justice system. We have people who have zero accountability around their job, and they know it. The Marion County judges, the Marion County prosecutor, they can't be impeached by the General Assembly. They can be voted out, but we know it's a pretty heavily Democrat area. And so as long as Ryan Beers has Democrat next to his name, he could be the worst Democrat in town. He's still going to win in the fall, nine times out of ten.

And so because of that lack of accountability, they really feel free to do whatever they want. And unfortunately, it's to pursue this super woke distorted view of justice, where the criminals get off easy and the working people, the people actually that pay the taxes here at Marion County, usually the ones that get the most trouble.

You don't have to be like that. You look just across the street over here in Hindert's County. You got a great prosecutor over there, a friend of mine, Lauren Delp, had a case just this last week where they put out a big press release. We had this repeat sex offender who had molested a five-year-old child. A horrible, horrible case. But I'll tell you what, he actually secured justice for that family. That guy has 184 years sentence. Now, I don't know about you, but I've never met anybody that's lived 184 years. That means that guy will never see a light of day outside of that jail cell. That's exactly the kind of thing we need here in Marion County. But unfortunately, with these judges, with this prosecutor, we're not seeing it.

Nigel (4:22)

One of the things I noticed about this case here in Marion County is the judge was like, if you mess up again, I am going to lay the hammer down on you. I'm paraphrasing, of course, but he's leaving the chance. He's like, the judge basically said, like, if you do this again, then I'm going to get tough on you. Like, I don't want to ever leave the chance of somebody like that doing it again, Andrew. You know what I'm saying?

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