Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters on 9/11, JFK, Gaza, and Why the Israel Lobby Is Trying to Destroy Him

**Tucker Carlson** (0:04)
Roger Waters, thank you for doing this.
Let's go back to the beginning to that day, September 11th, 2001 Where were you when that happened, and what did you think?

**Roger Waters** (0:15)
I was in Ireland Studios in London making a record.
And what did I think? I thought, can I use the F word?

**Tucker Carlson** (0:26)
Yes, you may.

**Roger Waters** (0:27)
I thought, fuck me. What? Because somebody turned the TV on. So we stopped working almost immediately. And I almost immediately called my then wife, Laurie, who was in New York at the time. And I was on the phone with her for the next two hours, sort of watching it develop and unfold before our very eyes. And I was in a state of shock like everyone was all over the world. What did I think? I mean, that's a very long and complicated answer to that, because I haven't stopped thinking ever since, really. And it was 25 years ago.
I could actually, you know, I wrote something down, but I know part of what I want. There's one sentence in what I wrote down here was that I thought to myself, if this is an attack by foreign people on the United States of America, will the American people notice that some people are pissed off with American foreign policy and that this is a result of it?
And I did think that. And in a way, that was the only positive thing I could think was, maybe now the wars come home, now something has happened on American soil, maybe that. And it didn't happen. And I was surprised, which shows how naive I was, I guess, that nobody even ever started to think that, or to allow that to color what happened afterwards. So that's how it felt to me. Am I making any sense?

**Tucker Carlson** (2:22)
You're making a lot of sense. And I had a similar thought at the time, which is not to obviously to justify it, or any act of violence, but cause and effect is real. So, I had the same thought, and I had a huge contretemps with my employer over at CNN at the time, because I made that point, and they attacked me for it.

**Roger Waters** (2:41)
What a surprise.

**Tucker Carlson** (2:42)
What a surprise.
But I kept working there, to my shame. But anyway, then there was the investigation into 9-11, the 9-11 Commission, which was impaneled by the then president George W. Bush, headed by a guy called Philip Zelikow, and it produced a report, which was then bound into a book that you could buy at the bookstore. Did you assess that? What did you think of the inquiry?

**Roger Waters** (3:07)
I did not read that book, I confess.
I did wonder why there wasn't a more thorough investigation or any real investigation into what actually happened. Because in the aftermath of it, we all watched the same images again and again and again, and it became evident. Well, not necessarily evident, but it looked likely. The whole story of controlled demolitions of buildings came up very quickly, not least because Building 7, which was obviously a controlled demolition. Its collapse was announced on the BBC in England half an hour before it happened.

**Tucker Carlson** (3:55)
That's a sign that it's not entirely organic, which you're watching.

**Roger Waters** (3:58)
Exactly. And we could laugh about it, but we can't because it's too tragic. But it was quite clear from the very beginning that Bin Laden got together with some terrorist Arabs, and they've done this, and isn't it awful, and now let's start World War III.
There was more to the whole thing than met the eye. And well, and I, to my eternal shame, had misgivings that I didn't immediately express about what had actually happened, because the atmosphere was appalling around the time, that if you did express any misgivings at all about the result of the 9-11 inquiry, you were labeled a madman.
And you would lose any voice that you had about any subject on Earth forever, just by questioning it. As we all know now, the people who did start to ask the questions were correct to do so. Yes. But, and I know this is part of the reason that you and I are having this conversation today, because of my friend Matt Campbell, is that was a terrible mistake, that the questions never got to any court of law, or to any place where you could actually listen to the evidence and look at the evidence and try and figure out what actually happened, if I could put it like that.

**Tucker Carlson** (5:37)