Patrick Clancy Revealed THIS About Lindsay's Time at McLean

Tony Brueski (0:02)

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke.

Tony Brueski (0:09)

Patrick Clancy on 60 Minutes on Sunday night. Obviously, a lot of people are talking about this.

It was quite an interesting interview, going into what it was like living with Lindsay, in the time leading up to the tragedy, to the tragedy, the moments of the tragedy, all the way through trial and the chaos that ensued. It was quite an interview. I'd love for your thoughts to be dropped in the comments today. We're going to go through the interview, talk about what was said in that interview. I've grabbed quotes from Patrick and his wife, and I'm just going to kind of sprinkle them out here, and we shall discuss. So I welcome your thoughts, like I said, in the comments section on Substack and YouTube as we do just that. Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent, Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program and Master Class Professor joining us, as always. Can I say Master Class Professor? Is that the right way of terming that?

Robin Dreeke (1:18)

So the way the Master Class likes to have it said is that I have a class and I'm an instructor for Master Class.

Tony Brueski (1:23)

Instructor for Master, okay.

Robin Dreeke (1:25)

That's their official terminology.

Tony Brueski (1:28)

Because I was thinking that over the weekend, I'm like, when is the right term to use for this? Anyway.

Robin Dreeke (1:33)

They're very kind, but they're very particular.

Tony Brueski (1:35)

Yes, okay, Master Class Instructor, Robin Dreeke, is with us. Let's get into, well, I just, I first, you're, before we go into specific quotes and pieces of this thing, just your overall, what were you saying to yourself when it went to the commercial break and the clock is ticking and the segment's over?

Robin Dreeke (1:56)

Yeah, great question. I was saying two things myself, really. I was saying that, wow, I can definitely, I can definitely see how it's going to remain divided because people are going to pull what they want to pull with their confirmation biases to double down on their opinion they have. I think it was very compelling for people that might have been middle of the road that didn't know a lot about him or the case because that's why, and that brings me to my reaction was, I mean, it was tearful. I mean, it evoked a lot of emotion in me, especially when he's describing holding his son as he died. I mean, how do you not do that? I mean, he gave the explanation of a stoicism. I thought in the courtroom well, which we noted here, which everyone noted from the panic attack he had. So I thought it was very compelling. I thought it was spot on for what we...

It's interesting, you know, what I expected, but I'm on the side of believing him and Lindsay to begin with. But if you're not, I don't think it was going to move the needle for you. Because I acknowledge that, you know, because I get it.

Tony Brueski (2:55)

And I mean, we watch a lot of interviews of a lot of people. And I mean, you know deception. You know what to look for in that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm not the expert. And you were in that camp. But you know, just having some reps and watching this with True Crime, it's like, I had nothing out of this whatsoever. And I never have felt that way about Patrick in any way, shape, or form that he was being deceptive. But I felt this is about as authentic as it's going to get from a human being that somehow has composed himself enough to speak these sentences out loud.

Because you could hear his voice cracking through a lot of it. But he's lived this now for so many years. This is not like the first time he's having to have this conversation. You're like, why is he not crying in the corner?

He's done that already a lot, probably still does when the cameras aren't rolling. But this is someone who has found resolve in life going forward. And again, people want to crucify him for it.

Robin Dreeke (3:59)

And you use that word composed. And I think that's a really good, accurate word for him. Because when we saw him in his presentation in the courtroom, he was composed. You heard about what he was like behind the scenes from him. And in this interview, too, you saw him trying to be composed. And I think that's a great word to use. And some people, this is the public presentation they try to put out there because they try to be professional. They try to be accurate with the things they're relating. And I think that's what his presentation, his personality is. But what you saw in the 60 Minutes, which we didn't get a chance to see in the courtroom because of his breakdown he had, and him trying to control it, was the quivering lips, the cracking of the voice, the misty eyes, and the words that he's saying. What we had is congruency, a lot of emotional congruency.