On To the Next One: What's Next For Dricus du Plessis, Kamaru Usman After UFC Oklahoma City?

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**Jed Meshew** (1:09)
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**Mike Heck** (1:31)
Well, hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the Next One. The Matchmaking Crowns are back following the UFC's return to Oklahoma City. That's right, UFC OKC went down this past Saturday night, and it happened. A main event happened between two former champions, and it was the former middleweight champion that got the job done against a very gay Kamaru Usman.
And we're here to discuss it. Hey, maybe we're a day late, but we're certainly not a dollar short. I am Mike Heck, and joining me this week to do all of your co-matchmaking duties, ladies and gentlemen, it is not my best friend Alexander Kaley. He is on vacation, but stepping in admirably, I might add, is Mr. No Gray Area himself, Jed Meshew from mmafighting.com. I hear it's a terrific website. Jed, how are we doing? Your Saturday was was action packed, was it not? While I was in Milwaukee at RAF?

**Jed Meshew** (2:29)
Yeah, it was my penance for skipping out 329 I did not realize it until like probably Thursday, just that everyone was gone. And so it was just me. I was like, oh, okay, that's going to be fun. We got a lot of stuff going on here.
But it was fun. Mike, how much of the UFC card have you seen at this point?

**Mike Heck** (2:51)
So I watched almost all of it.
So the whole media section at RAF for the most part, like in the UFC, there's a media room and you're sitting there and you're bringing people back and you have office space and all this stuff. The RAF events, your office space is literally the crowd. You're in the arena. So you got laptop on lap, sitting in the seats with the fans and doing all the stuff. So like our media section, it was like at one point, one of the media members that covers a lot of the UFC events was sitting like two seats down from me. And we're all noticing there was like seven of us, all with our cell phones out, all watching UFC Oklahoma City, all in the same fight, all in the same spot. We're all watching it as the wrestling matches are going on. And so I caught a lot of it. I watched probably the first three and a half rounds of the main event live. And then I went back and watched the rest, I watched the fifth round at the airport, like first thing Sunday morning in Milwaukee. And yeah, I didn't learn anything new from the fourth round. You know, shout out to Usman for battling. And then I think the funniest thing of the fight happened after the fight when the scores are being read off and Kamaru was reacting like, huh, how is that possible?
I don't think it was like, how did I lose that fight? But I think the 50-45 threw him off and the 49-46 threw him off. He's like, what happened? And he looks over at DC and DC's like, gives him the look of, you kind of got battered the whole fight, but good on you for making it to the end. So yeah, I watched a bunch of it. And yeah, I didn't watch like every single prelim, but luckily the results page on MMAfighting.com's terrific website got me where I needed to go.

**Jed Meshew** (4:40)
Also, the prelims were mostly interesting.
Yeah, to, you know, a lot of finishes, decent fights, the prospect fights I was most interested in, ended up delivering pretty good action. So like a rock solid card, had a good time this weekend, despite the fact that I was, or maybe because I was not fully focused on it because I had to spend, I was doing RAF and PFL too. So I was at no point in time as I not watching somebody do something. I was bouncing around a lot. So maybe that helped me.