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I'm Scott Galloway and this is No Mercy, No Malice. Most of us live inside a media bubble. My raging moderates co-host, Jessica Tarlov, moves across them.
As the lone liberal on the five, Jess is able to engage with conservative colleagues at Fox News with real aplomb. She appears fearless, but as she writes in her book, I Disagree, Fear Doesn't Disappear, You Just Decide It Won't Stop You. I asked Jessica to share an excerpt from the book about channeling rage without letting it consume us and finding calm without becoming complacent. Her advice, get louder about your convictions and gentler with your people.
I Disagree, by Jessica Tarlov.
**Jessica Tarlov** (2:25)
On Raging Moderates, I asked my guests the same closing question. What's one thing that makes you rage and one thing you think we should all calm down about? Every week I think about how I'd answer. Sometimes it's a frivolous frustration, like the jockeying for overhead bin space on an airplane. Other times I'm raging about something deeper, maybe American citizens being detained by ice.
When I ask about what we should calm down about, it's the same pattern. Sometimes it's a minor frustration with my kids, and other times I'm considering something more meta. Right now, the thing that makes me rage is fear, or more particularly the feeling so many of us have that we can't overcome our fears.
When I started at the five, facing four conservatives and millions of viewers who might not agree with me, I'd wake up with my stomach in knots and rehearse arguments in my head, terrified I'd say the wrong thing. But eventually, I learned that fear doesn't go away. You just decide it's not going to stop you. You learn to live with it, to feed off the energy and hopefully, to find a way to express it that doesn't sap your strength but makes you stronger. When your fear is harnessed, no matter what it's about, you become a more complete, self-aware person. That's what I want for you. Not to be unafraid. Fear is a rational response to the challenges ahead, but to decide that you're not going to let that fear keep you on the sidelines of whatever challenge is making you tense. And what's the one thing we should all calm down about? Each other.
I know that sounds simple, maybe even naïve, but good people have flaws. It can be hard to see the humanity in people whose politics feel so foreign to yours, or imagine bonding with those who excuse, or worse, endorse behavior that's antithetical to yours.
But those same people can be loving parents, generous neighbors and devoted friends. The reverse is true as well. People with the right politics can have serious personal failings. If we demand perfection from everyone, we end up alone. And loneliness, that's what's really killing us.
It's also okay to listen to bad ideas. In the past decade on Fox, I've been exposed to a lot of conservative thinking that I can get on board with, or at least peacefully coexist with. But I've also heard arguments that range from misguided to flat out wrong, conspiracy theories dressed up as facts, policy positions held up by vibes alone. Being exposed to those arguments didn't convert me. It didn't shake my core principles or change my vote. Actually, it's been the opposite. Listening to bad ideas has taught me what people fear, what they believe in, what they know and don't know, and sometimes, just sometimes, how I might change their minds. The weakest arguments are the easiest to dismantle. The strongest are actually worth wrestling with.
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