Nick Kroll Convinced Netflix to Air Animated Animal Sex

Bert Kreischer (0:05)

It's crazy to me, first of all, how hard animated is because I, you know, it's like we are in love with a certain Homer Simpson.

Nick Kroll (0:16)

Sure.

Bert Kreischer (0:16)

Because, and then when you watch the old Homer Simpson, you're like, dude, what the fuck is this?

Nick Kroll (0:22)

I'm gonna strangle, and that's it.

Tom Segura (0:25)

He was just really angry at first. Yeah. He was like super pissed. He wasn't the lovable dope.

Nick Kroll (0:30)

No. And it takes time.

It takes time. And shows, and it's not even shows, it's just the landscape of it, for attention is such that you can't, you don't have that time, and there's not that money to like really let something become itself. It has to become itself very quickly and successfully.

Bert Kreischer (0:48)

But having done Loud Mouth and now the new series. Are we on?

Tom Segura (0:51)

Are we recording?

Bert Kreischer (0:51)

Yeah, we're on, right. Open season, not open season.

Nick Kroll (0:54)

But I love if we just promote both shows Loud Mouth and Open Season.

Tom Segura (1:00)

He always does that.

Nick Kroll (1:01)

So guys get out.

Bert Kreischer (1:03)

Was it Mating Season?

Nick Kroll (1:04)

It's Mating Season.

Bert Kreischer (1:05)

It's Mating Season.

Nick Kroll (1:06)

And Big Mouth. And...

Bert Kreischer (1:07)

Oh, it's not Loud Mouth.

Nick Kroll (1:09)

It's not?

Bert Kreischer (1:10)

Wait, so I was in... So I watched five episodes this morning.

And I said, I'm having Nick Kroll. And they go, is he promoting Big Mouth?

Nick Kroll (1:19)

Yeah.

Bert Kreischer (1:20)

And I said, no, he's got a new show called Open... Mating Season. And then they said, God, I fucking love Big Mouth.

And my trainer and his girlfriend, who are staying at our house, were like, I love the characters. I love the... And then they've married, because you're what? How many seasons of Big Mouth?

Nick Kroll (1:36)

We did eight seasons of Big Mouth.

Bert Kreischer (1:37)

Eight seasons of Big Mouth. You've given an audience time to fall in love with the animated character. And now they're tethered to the hormone monster or whatever, right?

Nick Kroll (1:46)

Who isn't?

Bert Kreischer (1:48)

And then you introduce new characters and then you got to give them time to fall in love with them.

Nick Kroll (1:52)

Yeah. Well, and so...

Bert Kreischer (1:55)

It's so much harder than just presenting Nick Kroll, who we know. Does that make sense?

Nick Kroll (2:01)

Of course. But I feel like, one, the only other person who called Loud Mouth is Andrew Goldberg, who I created the show with. His dad, Michael Goldberg, who is more like any of the characters in real life. Andrew's dad, Richard Kine did the voice. And he's just like the funniest, but he called the show Loud Mouth, like his own son. He was like, I'm excited for Loud Mouth. And he had t-shirts that said Loud Mouth on it, with like a budget version of each of our characters' drawings. He got them pirated. And that's the only person who's called it Loud Mouth. So you're in good company.

But I do think it is the challenge of it. But I think in specifically animation, the reason we do love like Homer and all of like the whatever, the shows that people fall in love with, South Park or Family Guy or any of those shows, is because animation, the process, the other side of it, the process lets you polish and fine tune and really like, think about the stories you're telling or the fucking jokes you're telling, because you have so many steps to hit it and get it right. Like when you guys are doing your shows, like you hope you get on the day and you hope you can figure it out in the edit, right?

Tom Segura (3:12)

Totally, yeah.

Nick Kroll (3:14)

With animation, you have like an animatic, like a black and white sort of rough draft of it. So you get to screen it, you have a radio play even before that where you listen to the whole thing and be like, these jokes are not working, this storyline's not working.

Bert Kreischer (3:26)

A radio play.

Nick Kroll (3:27)

A radio play.

Bert Kreischer (3:29)

Like a podcast.

Nick Kroll (3:29)

It's literally like the scripted podcast, like only the audio of it and you can then go in and fucking tighten it up. And then there's the color screening. At that point you really get to be like, okay what does it look like? And you get to hopefully get time to rewrite and read.