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Netflix Chases YouTube, Meta's AI Photo Grab, and Disney Fights the FCC

Pivot

July 10, 2026

Kara is joined by Puck’s Matt Belloni to unpack states’ upcoming antitrust challenge to the Paramount–Warner Bros. Discovery merger, Disney’s fight with the FCC over "The View," and Netflix’s growing YouTube ambitions.
Speakers: Kara Swisher, Matt Belloni, John Marco Cerezi, Russell Daniels
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**Kara Swisher** (1:26)
That guy works the lesbian look so beautifully. I've told him this to his face. I'm like, you look like a lesbian I used to date back in the 80s.
Hi everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. Scott is off again. Who knows where he is? He's floating around on some yacht in some Italian area, I think. But I brought in someone who was much smarter than him, Matt Belloni, journalist, founding partner of Puck, and host of the Town podcast. Welcome, Matt.

**Matt Belloni** (1:58)
Thanks for having me. I don't know about that comparison to Scott, but I'll take it.

**Kara Swisher** (2:01)
No, he's really smart. But in the topics that we're going to be talking about, and there's so many of them, you are just doing an amazing job and an amazing reporter on Hollywood and broader. You talk about AI and all manner of things. I just want to put also a shout out to Eric Gardner, who writes with you sometimes on the legal stuff, riveting.

**Matt Belloni** (2:20)
He's great. Yeah. Once a week at Puck, he's great.

**Kara Swisher** (2:23)
I got to tell you an important actually. It's stuff I didn't know about and you understand how, especially around copyright and things like that. Anyway, it's really good. One of the things I want to have you on, because you really have written some of the smartest stuff around a lot of these mergers and more to come. So I want to get a preview of where you think you're going. But I want to bring something up. You recently said, Can, Lions is a tacky business conference. How did that go? I agree with you, but how did that go over?
It's not tacky. The wine is lovely, but it's tacky-ish.

**Matt Belloni** (2:56)
Well, I didn't say enjoy the rosé. So listen, I did an intro of my newsletter a couple weeks ago during Can, Lion, which I called it a soulless corporate boondoggle, and that I would not be attending that year.
It seems to have triggered everybody who was there, because I kept hearing from people that it was coming up at different panels. Ben Smith asked Alex Cooper about it on his panel. And listen, I think it was a little misunderstood. I don't mind a boondoggle. Like, I love a good boondoggle. The problem with Can, Lion is that they call it a festival of creativity.

**Kara Swisher** (3:30)
Creativity, you're right, correct. Yes.

**Matt Belloni** (3:32)
And it is not. It is about platforms for selling advertising.

**Kara Swisher** (3:37)
That's correct. That is correct. Yeah.

**Matt Belloni** (3:39)
I, you know, through my career covering entertainment, I go to the Can Film Festival, which happens a month earlier. That to me is Can, because yes, it's a market, but it's ultimately about the art and displaying the art. And, you know, even like my joke is that Can Lyon makes the TV up fronts look like the Oscars. Because at least at the up fronts, they're talking about the product, the shows, the movies. It's all about the talent. It's all about, that is not Can Lyon. It's a-

**Kara Swisher** (4:09)

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