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Monday Gunday

Hammer + Nigel Show Podcast

October 5, 2026

Guy A. Relford "The Gun Guy" joins the show to talk about a lady pulling a gun in a toy store, flock cameras vs 2A rights, and the "door kick challenge." Check out The Gun Guy every Saturday at 5pm on WIBC

Speakers Guy A. Relford, Jason Hammer, Nigel

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SPEAKER_1 (0:02)

The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to The Gun Show.

Guy A. Relford (0:06)

It's Monday, Gun Day, with the Gun Guy.

SPEAKER_1 (0:09)

Just watch out for the guns, they'll get you.

Guy A. Relford (0:11)

Guy A.

SPEAKER_3 (0:12)

Relford.

Guy A. Relford (0:13)

Stop calling your arms Gun. The Hammer and Nigel Show.

Jason Hammer (0:17)

My name is Nigel, Jason Hammer right over there with a very special in-studio guest.

Nigel (0:23)

He is a radio host here at 93WIBC, The Gun Guy Show. Every Saturday, he's also a firearms instructor, a 2A attorney, Guy Relford. How are you, my friend?

Guy A. Relford (0:36)

Guys, I am great. It's great to be here. And thanks, as always, to our sponsor for Monday Gun Day, which is Premier Arms in Brownsburg, the largest selection of new, used and historic firearms in the Midwest. And PA. Drew is located in the farmhouse right out front. Check him out at 3754 South Green Street in Brownsburg or Premier arms.com.

Nigel (0:55)

A couple of different stories that have local tie ins here. Let's start with this idiot lady that went into the toy store here in Indiana and pulled out her piece, pulled out her gun because her kid couldn't play with the toys guy.

Guy A. Relford (1:13)

Yeah, you know, I mean, as a two way advocate and someone who fights for gun rights every day, these are the stories that just reach into my chest and crunch my heart. That because here's someone who's a gun owner, who's a complete and utter moron, and she's in a gun store. Somebody we always store toy store. Excuse me. Yeah, I said, I say, he's in a she's in a toy store, and she wants her kid to play on some toy that isn't accessible to the public, apparently, and the employees go, you know, excuse us. You can't do that.

And next thing you know, she's challenging them to a fight and then waving her gun around and everything about this. Have you seen the video? The grip she has on this gun, apparently, she pulled it out and she's, I can use this. And she's got the world's worst grip on this thing. It looks like it's about to fly out of her hand even before she would possibly pull the trigger.

Jason Hammer (2:07)

That's what's everything's wrong. That's what's even scarier about this story is what could have gone wrong.

Guy A. Relford (2:12)

There could have been so many things go wrong here. And even again, as a two way advocate, I'm hoping this lady gets prosecuted for pointing a firearm, intimidation with a deadly weapon. I hope she does jail time.

I hope they cart her off and actually she does some DOC time. I really think that would be appropriate in this case.

Nigel (2:30)

Because it's morons like this lady that give the law abiding, you know, gun owners the bad name. I kind of feel like it's the same argument that police officers have when one of their colleagues does something stupid.

Guy A. Relford (2:44)

Exactly.

Nigel (2:44)

You know, it gives fodder to everybody else. All cops are bad. All this kind of nonsense.

Guy A. Relford (2:49)

That is dead on and I couldn't agree more. I mean, watch me. I'll probably get an email tomorrow that said, I was going to hire you until you told me I was a moron on the radio.

But listen, these are the kind of people that need to be prosecuted because I handle cases all the time where people get accused of being irresponsible and they don't do anything like this. You know, it's being spun, I think, inappropriately. Here, as a 2A advocate, this lady needs to go to jail. And it needs to be a disincentive for any other idiots out there who might be inclined to do something similar.

Nigel (3:22)

So let's now pivot to the flock camera debate. And again, if you ever want to fire up a radio talk show audience here in Indiana, yes, bring up class basketball and bring up flock cameras. Like people will be ready to throw down and fight for both.

Guy A. Relford (3:39)

Yeah, we had a couple of nine to noon fill in hosts there for a while. I think that was their whole show. I mean, two of them. And they would come on and talk about flock cameras and data centers, and they didn't really have to prepare anything else.

Nigel (3:50)

Oh, that's the other one. Data centers.

Guy A. Relford (3:52)

Yeah.

Nigel (3:53)

You know what? To complete the Mount Rushmore, should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame? Those are the conversations starting Mount Rushmore here. Exactly.

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