Monday Gunday

Jason Hammer (0:01)

The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to The Gun Show. It's Monday, Gun Day, with the Gun Guy.

Guy Relford (0:09)

Just watch out for the guns.

Jason Hammer (0:11)

They'll get you.

Guy Relford (0:12)

Guy Relford.

Nigel (0:13)

Stop calling your arms Guns.

Guy Relford (0:15)

The Gun Guy and Nigel Show.

Jason Hammer (0:17)

My name is Nigel, Jason Hammer, right over there, with a very special in-studio guest.

Nigel (0:23)

The Gun Guy, Guy Relford joins us to a attorney, firearms instructor, before we get to the Gun Guy correction that IU football games in Bloomington on Friday. I thought it was up in Northwestern. It's actually in Bloomington. So if you go up to Chicago, you will not find the football game. But if you go down to Bloomington, you will. Sure. There you go.

All right, Guy, we were talking earlier in the program about this Delphi appeals hearing.

Again, I am not a Richard Allen apologist. I'm really not. But I don't think there was a lot of transparency the first time around the board here. So I'm not mad at the defense saying, look, we couldn't present our case. We couldn't do this or that. If the prosecution is so confident that this is the guy, why won't they allow us to enter our evidence in? What did you think?

Guy Relford (1:20)

Well, I actually watched that oral argument today, which you can do live by video. And by the way, before we get into it, I got to get to my sponsor, which is, we always want to thank our sponsor for the Gun Guy Show, which is Premier Arms in Brownsburg, the largest selection of new used and historic firearms in the Midwest. And PA Jewelers located in the farmhouse right out front. Check them out at 3754 South Green Street in Brownsburg. Premier arms.com.

Nigel (1:46)

They got a big event on Saturday. It's their big 25th anniversary shindig. I'll be there from two to three hanging out, getting into shenanigans. If anybody wants to come by and talk some smack with me, you can do that.

Guy Relford (1:58)

Absolutely. Love those guys, and they're a great sponsor, so we always want to make sure we acknowledge them. But yeah, I watched that oral argument by video today, and it was fun for me because I've actually been up against that same deputy attorney general in the court of appeals. Really? Mrs. Meelander, yeah.

She argued against me in my last appeal that I won in the court of appeals. There you go.

And I've actually been in front of each one of those judges on different panels in front of the court of appeals. And so I had a little background from the appellate work that I do, and that made it interesting for me to watch. But what people need to keep in mind when an appeal is all about, right? It's not really there. You're not there to re-argue the facts. You're not there to say the jury got it wrong because they should have concluded this versus that from the facts that came in. You're looking at legal errors that the judge committed. That's what you have to point out. That's what you have to establish. And you have to establish those errors were prejudicial. And you guys were talking about a little bit of this issue during your first segment. Not only have to say it was error, but it was not harmless error, and it was prejudicial error. But for that error, that makes the difference between whether Richard Allen got a fair trial or not. And one of the main arguments that his team was making was that the state had lied on their probable cause affidavit to get a search warrant to search his home. And they said they put in untrue statements. And based on those untrue statements, the search warrant should have never been issued. A big one was on they were limited on the evidence they were allowed to submit. The judge made a mistake, they say. The judge did not allow them to enter all their evidence on the extent to which Richard Allen was crazy, that he was psychotic, specifically, such that the confessions that he made while he was in that state were not voluntary. If you're not sane, if you're not thinking normally, if you can't rationally determine what you're saying, what you're doing because of a mental condition like psychosis, then that's not a voluntary confession and it should not be admitted. In addition, the defense says they were prohibited from entering all the up. For instance, when they made a very specific point on this, they said they had audio of Richard Allen in his cell just rambling incoherently, just on and on and on, nonstop.