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Metaview Raises, LinkedIn Hunts, & HCA Gambles on Palantir

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

October 9, 2026

Live from Amsterdam where redheads combust in the sun and nobody uses e-scooters—the Chad and Cheese crew are back with guest star Stephen McGrath to tackle HR’s messiest sagas: Metaview’s $60M Pivot: How a basic, commoditized note-taking app rebranded as an "agentic AI" messiah.

Speakers Joel Cheesman, Stephen McGrath, Leven, Chad Sowash

TopicsCareersBusinessTechnology

Joel Cheesman (0:00)

All right, who's ready for a cold hard fact? Indeed's pricing model, and all programmatic job advertising, is based on driving volume, not outcomes. Job boards get paid on clicks and applies, not hires. Their incentive is to send you more volume. That's what happens with volume-based pricing models, and all that volume creates exactly what you'd expect. Mass inefficiency, mountains of unqualified applicants, and wasted spend. Meanwhile, TA teams know their career site is already their best source of quality applicants who get hired. TA teams invest in their career sites and employer brand, but the outdated technology makes it too hard for people to connect and apply. Dalia fixes that. Millions of job seekers use Dalia every month to seamlessly connect to employer career sites and apply to jobs using their universal candidate profile. No re-entering information over and over. It's like the shop pay button, but for jobs. It's secure, it integrates directly into your ATS, and it works instantly on any career site. Employers using Dalia can double their conversion of career site visitors into qualified applicants and hires. That's how you start cutting your dependence on Indeed. Learn more at dalia.co. That's D-A-L-I-A dot C-O.

SPEAKER_2 (1:15)

A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch.

Joel Cheesman (1:21)

You didn't win, but you might win. Not like bringing that up. I don't want to win. No, you were nominated. Everybody's a winner when it's nominated.

Stephen McGrath (1:28)

Shout out to all the losers, baby.

Joel Cheesman (1:30)

Well done. I mean, being Scottish, you're kind of used to that.

Stephen McGrath (1:33)

Yeah, yeah.

Wait, what? We're going to have to stop filming while I fight Cheesman?

Leven (1:37)

There's a lot of windows around here.

Joel Cheesman (1:39)

It's a long way down. Hide your kids. You're listening to HCA. The Chad & Cheese Podcast.

SPEAKER_5 (1:44)

The Chad & Cheese Podcast. Of course, you're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking news, rash opinion, and loads of snark, buckle up, boys and girls. It's time for The Chad & Cheese Podcast.

Joel Cheesman (2:05)

Oh yeah, straight out of the red light district, this is The Chad & Cheese Podcast. Here's one of your co-hosts, Joel, no weirdos and no beardos, Cheesman.

Chad Sowash (2:16)

This is Chad, the Mexican sun hits much different, Sowash.

Leven (2:20)

I'm leaving the red hats districts, you know, I like that.

Stephen McGrath (2:25)

I'm Stephen, would I get bombed in here for wearing meta-glosses? McGrath.

Joel Cheesman (2:29)

Stephen McGrath is in the house. And on this week's episode of HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, LinkedIn bans Metaview raises, and we're live from the eRecruitment Conference in Amsterdam.

Stephen McGrath (2:42)

Let's do this.

Joel Cheesman (2:44)

It's commercial time.

Chad Sowash (2:46)

Okay, face it, recruitment marketing is broken. 70% of paid recruitment media goes wasted. 93% of candidates bounce off your job ads before they even apply for the job. And this is not a talent problem. No, it's not a data problem. It's a targeting and experience problem. The beauty of this is companies aren't trying to fix it. They're transforming it.

SPEAKER_5 (3:10)

Hell yeah!

Chad Sowash (3:11)

With up to 80% more high quality applicants, 40% reduction in spend and 50% less recruiter time spent, they're realizing what's possible with recruitment marketing that actually works. So how do they do it? Well, they chose Jovio, an AI led high performance recruitment marketing platform built to eliminate waste and drive more results. With Jovio's AI agents, your job ads reach the right candidates while your career site, conversational AI and application process drive better candidates and conversions. What about those qualified candidates you've already bought and paid for and they're wasting away in your ATS? Well, Jovio also re-engages them. Want to learn more about Jovio? Cool. Just go to jovio.com. That's joveo.com.

It's showtime.

Joel Cheesman (4:05)

What's up, guys? Now, when you say the sun hits differently, I'm guessing you're saying S-U-N and not S-O-N.

Chad Sowash (4:10)

Yes.

Joel Cheesman (4:10)

You don't have a bunch of illegitimate child, children, or Mexican.

Chad Sowash (4:14)

No comment. Yeah, no.

Joel Cheesman (4:16)

Because you did a tour in South America, so who knows?

Stephen McGrath (4:19)

I did.

Chad Sowash (4:20)

Thanks for reminding me. But going back to that in a different way. No, just went to Cabo for my buddy's wedding.

Stephen McGrath (4:29)

Chris and Marin. Yes.

Chad Sowash (4:31)

Congratulations, guys. Congratulations.

Yeah, but it's funny because I'll be in Portugal, out on the beach. I don't have to worry about getting burnt. I just don't. You go to fucking Mexico, you're that close to the equator. I mean, much closer, let's just say that. Yeah, I got burnt. I haven't gotten burnt in a long time.

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