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LinkedIn Goes Full TikTok : Job Seeker Confidence Collapses

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

October 2, 2026

Joel and Maureen are back, slightly singed from RecFest, to argue about whether the industry is a warm community or a room full of under-resourced people begging an AI agent to reinvent the email alert.

Speakers Joel Cheesman, Maureen

TopicsCareersBusinessTechnology

Joel Cheesman (0:00)

All right, who's ready for a cold hard fact? Indeed's pricing model, and all programmatic job advertising, is based on driving volume, not outcomes. Job boards get paid on clicks and applies, not hires. Their incentive is to send you more volume. That's what happens with volume-based pricing models, and all that volume creates exactly what you'd expect. Mass inefficiency, mountains of unqualified applicants, and wasted spend. Meanwhile, TA teams know their career site is already their best source of quality applicants who get hired. TA teams invest in their career sites and employer brand, but the outdated technology makes it too hard for people to connect and apply. Dalia fixes that. Millions of job seekers use Dalia every month to seamlessly connect to employer career sites and apply to jobs using their universal candidate profile. No re-entering information over and over. It's like the shop pay button, but for jobs. It's secure, it integrates directly into your ATS, and it works instantly on any career site. Employers using Dalia can double their conversion of career site visitors into qualified applicants and hires. That's how you start cutting your dependence on Indeed. Learn more at dalia.co. That's D-A-L-I-A dot C-O.

SPEAKER_2 (1:15)

A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch.

Maureen (1:21)

I will never do the grift of like, just start your own business. Starting your own business is really freaking hard.

Joel Cheesman (1:26)

It is hard. As more people do that, it becomes harder because it's more and more people, like there's more influencers and more like the more there are, the harder it is.

Maureen (1:33)

You're bringing me back down, Joel.

Joel Cheesman (1:35)

Which is why my only fans hustle never quite took off because there's too much competition in that space.

SPEAKER_4 (1:44)

Hide your kids, lock the doors. You're listening to HR's most dangerous podcast. Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are here to punch the recruiting industry right where it hurts. Complete with breaking nudes, brash opinion and loads of snark.

SPEAKER_2 (1:58)

Buckle up, boys and girls.

Joel Cheesman (2:00)

It's time for The Chad & Cheese Podcast.

Oh yeah. Nashville hot going in. Toxic waste on the way out. Hey boys and girls, it's The Chad & Cheese Podcast. I'm your co-host, Joel, Village Idiot Cheeseman.

Maureen (2:19)

I'm your co-host Maureen, and I'm your co-host KK Mo. These are definitely not meta glasses, quietly clasped.

Joel Cheesman (2:25)

Yeah, we'll get to that. On this week's episode of HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, A Tale of Two Economies, JobSeeker Malay's, and Madonna stirs up controversy like it's 1992 all over again. Let's do this.

It's commercial time.

SPEAKER_5 (2:42)

Okay, face it. Recruitment marketing is broken. 70% of paid recruitment media goes wasted. 93% of candidates bounce off your job ads before they even apply for the job.

And this is not a talent problem. No, it's not a data problem. It's a targeting and experience problem. The beauty of this is companies aren't trying to fix it. They're transforming it.

Joel Cheesman (3:06)

Hell yeah!

SPEAKER_5 (3:07)

With up to 80% more high quality applicants, 40% reduction in spend, and 50% less recruiter time spent, they're realizing what's possible with recruitment marketing that actually works. So how'd they do it? Well, they chose Jovio, an AI led high performance recruitment marketing platform built to eliminate waste and drive more results. With Jovio's AI agents, your job ads reach the right candidates while your career site, conversational AI and application process drive better candidates and conversions. What about those qualified candidates you've already bought and paid for and they're wasting away in your ATS? Well, Jovio also re-engages them. Want to learn more about Jovio? Cool. Just go to jovio.com. That's joveo.com.

It's showtime.

Maureen (4:02)

Just us, huh?

Joel Cheesman (4:03)

Just the two of us.

SPEAKER_6 (4:05)

We can make it if we...

SPEAKER_4 (4:07)

So, you recovered from Nashville?

Joel Cheesman (4:09)

You've got the morning after glasses on.

Maureen (4:13)

I just wanted to match your energy, Joel. We were talking about glasses.

Joel Cheesman (4:17)

The eyewear game is tight on this week's show. Sorry. If you're listening, I don't know, how would you describe your glasses? Kind of like Golden Girls meets... Yeah.

Maureen (4:27)

Golden Girls. But the 2026 version.

Joel Cheesman (4:31)

It's kind of a Lisa Loeb meets Betty White thing you got going there.

Maureen (4:35)

I agree.

SPEAKER_7 (4:35)

Yes. I think that's her.

Maureen (4:37)

More on the Lisa Loeb side, I would say.

Joel Cheesman (4:40)

She was so hot back then. She was awesome. I had such a crush on her back in the day. That song.

Maureen (4:43)

Oh my gosh.

Joel Cheesman (4:44)

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