Lindsay Clancy’s Trial Turned Into a Judgment of Who Else?

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This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke.

Tony Brueski (0:09)

Here we are, the Lindsay Clancy verdict. We may actually get it within the hour officially. And we will go to that if they get back into the courtroom to deliver that verdict. Kevin Reddington here at the very last moment decided to appear to opt for what I would call the physical challenge, if you will, like Double Dare. And he's actually, I believe we have some footage of him right now on the court steps.

This is Kevin Reddington. He is partaking in the physical challenge at the moment, trying to get the document up to the courthouse steps as quickly as he possibly is on the hamster wheel right now. And there we go. He's got the document. Mark Summers is there cheering him on. And there he goes. He's got it to the courthouse. Look at that. Kevin Reddington, hoop of fire for the complete. There we go. Ring of fire. Ring of fire. It looks like he has he has succeeded in his double dare challenge there. I was surprised that he opted for the physical challenge at the end. It's kind of what it feels like though, quite honestly.

It's like, I'll give you an hour, run to this other building and get this fire. I mean, we're in 2026 and we operate, you know, like we were pre-fax machine in so many ways. And it seems it's almost a reflection of also how we understand mental health and how the state of Massachusetts has processed this case, how it's presented this case, almost as if it's in that same sort of era. Robin Dreeke, retired FBI special agent and chief of the counterintelligence behavioral analysis program with us this morning as always.

Do you feel the same? I mean, it almost feels like maybe some things need a little updating here on how we handle things in such archaic fashion.

Robin Dreeke (2:14)

You know, yes and no. And I want to say yes and no because, yes, it needs updating, Tony. But the thing that really struck me, I mean, watching him, again, put the emotions, because I know we have a lot of divided people in the country on this one, put the emotions of what you think about the case aside a second. When I watched him as the judge is about to call on the jury, and declare a mistrial, I'm watching it live, like we all were, and he stands up on his last ditch effort to call for a stay, and watching him fight to the last breath, I had to look it up. I mean, I got it on my AI right here, what the hell he was doing. Yeah. I mean, it brought, I get misty thinking about it, and not because of the case, although that's important, mostly important because of the mental health challenges, women and everything, but when you see a human being fighting so hard, so relentlessly, with every ounce of his soul to exhaust every single last thing, I say to my kids all the time, when you throw everything on the kitchen table, and you gave everything your complete all, and there's everything, every option you could do is exhausted, the outcome is what it is. And just knowing that he tried this hard with everything in his soul to do all he could for Lindsay, for the client, and very obviously for something he believes so deeply in, it really is awe-inspiring. But his action is just awe-inspiring. So it's been a snip snap back and forth up and down, especially now, we've had all the leakage about what it looks like, what the verdict was.

It's been, this case has been long, it's been exhausting, I think, psychologically and emotionally for a lot of people, but it ain't disappointing in the last couple of hours, there's no doubt.

Tony Brueski (3:55)

It really has. Yeah, I mean, it's just been, it's been a roller coaster. To better understand what exactly is going on here, this is how I'm understanding it. The Clancy jury, or the Clancy, yeah, the Clancy jury just told Judge Sullivan for the third time. They cannot and will not reach a unanimous verdict. And they used the term with a heavy heart. Thought that was interesting. After seven days and more than 36 hours, and Sullivan said he had no choice but to declare a hung jury mistrial. Defense Attorney Kevin Reddington stopped him. Reddington has been arguing since yesterday that this is not a true deadlock. That 11 jurors are ready to acquit on lack of criminal responsibility in one holdout, acknowledging doubt about, acknowledging doubt, but refuses to apply it to the verdict, which Reddington says is a refusal to follow the judge's reasonable doubt instruction. Sullivan refused to remove that juror, so Reddington has asked for a brief stay, meaning basically press pause for a second. The judge was about to bring the jury back in to declare the mistrial. Reddington said, wait one second for that stay to file an emergency Chapter 211, Section 3 petition, which of course we all know what that is.